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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2830916" data-attributes="member: 23094">No, he isn't.  If the order is as you say it, then the order is equivalent to Fighter, Monster, Rogue - and the Monster can move away from the Fighter before the Rogue attacks it.  Thus, no flanking, and thus, only +1 vs. an equivalently stat-ed Fighter - and the Rogue doesn't get his Sneak Attack damage, to boot.In short, arguing about "who's flanking whom" doesn't get you anywhere.Of course it isn't weak.  I never said it was.  I did, however, say that it isn't blatantly overpowered, like you're claiming it is.Please provide a rules quote for that position.The rule is that specific rules override general rules.  By virtue of the fact that there is a specific rule (take a 5' step when X happens), it implicitly overrides the general rule (you can only take a 5' step under the following circumstances).There's also been "How do you calculate multiclass BAB?", "How many ranks can I have in skill X (which is class for one of my classes, and cross-class for the other)?", and others.Just because someone is asking a question doesn't mean the rules are necessarily unclear.Like, say, True Strike?The fact of the matter is "crippled" is completely subjective - just like "stupid."Yeah - I believe they call it "Initiative," or perhaps "Dexterity modifier."And, actually, we have the same problem nowadays: readied actions.  Three archers ready an attack action to shoot the enemy wizard when he starts casting a spell.  Whose arrow hits first?I'm pretty sure that, at some point, you've recommended SF(Con) over CC for exactly the reasoning stated.  If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I don't believe I am.So, how does your stance above reconcile to your opinion about Leap of the Heavens?</blockquote>

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