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<blockquote data-quote="Lorehead" data-source="post: 2837453" data-attributes="member: 40086">All right.&nbsp; My conclusion is that these feats look nowhere close to being overpowered, although I'd need to see them in play to be certain.Offense generally trumps defense in D&amp;D.&nbsp; It ends the fight sooner, meaning that you also take fewer hits and roll fewer saves.&nbsp; Add to this that these feats give you abilities which, like your favored enemy bonus, the DM decides how often you'll get to use.&nbsp; That's at least an active bonus; saving throws are passive.&nbsp; Many encounters won't involve Fortitude or Will saves at all, or will force you to roll at most one of them.&nbsp; Furthermore, many groups especially hate having PCs die meaningless deaths, for instance because some oil slick zaps you to prove how evil it is and you roll a natural 1.What's the problem?&nbsp; I just don't see one.&nbsp; It can't be that the bonuses are too high, since they're entirely in line with what existing feats give.&nbsp; It can't be that they counter enchanters too well.&nbsp; A PC enchanter will face plenty of opponents who don't have them, and already faces plenty of others who will be completely (or effectively) immune.&nbsp; As for NPC enchanters, every defensive ability is great against someone; how effective were they before against PC clerics and druids?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lorehead, post: 2837453, member: 40086"] All right. My conclusion is that these feats look nowhere close to being overpowered, although I'd need to see them in play to be certain. Offense generally trumps defense in D&D. It ends the fight sooner, meaning that you also take fewer hits and roll fewer saves. Add to this that these feats give you abilities which, like your favored enemy bonus, the DM decides how often you'll get to use. That's at least an active bonus; saving throws are passive. Many encounters won't involve Fortitude or Will saves at all, or will force you to roll at most one of them. Furthermore, many groups [i]especially[/i] hate having PCs die meaningless deaths, for instance because some oil slick zaps you to prove how evil it is and you roll a natural 1. What's the problem? I just don't see one. It can't be that the bonuses are too high, since they're entirely in line with what existing feats give. It can't be that they counter enchanters too well. A PC enchanter will face plenty of opponents who don't have them, and already faces plenty of others who will be completely (or effectively) immune. As for NPC enchanters, every defensive ability is great against someone; how effective were they before against PC clerics and druids? [/QUOTE]

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