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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lvl20dm" data-source="post: 4198443" data-attributes="member: 32150">I think this is probably the progression of feats, though some classes might get bonus feats (and we know humans get a bonus feat). Still, even assuming no bonus feats, this is a good amount of feats. As far as attribute increases go, we can only extrapolate. In 3.x you got 1 point increase, in saga edition you got two increases every four levels. We could try and figure out the exact number by looking at a higher level character. Rich Baker wrote up a Human Warlord named Karhun in one of his blog posts, it was level 10 - I think it had the stats of STR 20 CON 14 DEX 8 INT 17 WIS 10 CHA 14. Assuming that you get increases at level 4 and 8, and assuming he used his floating +2 racial bonus from being a human for STR, we should be able to extrapolate the attribute bonus. We'd also have to rely on the Rules Compilation's method for generating stats (32 pt. buy with slightly different costs than 3.5). Doing that I've only been able to come up with a +1 to three different attributes at levels 4 and 8. Karhun would have started with the stats of 18(16+2 from Human),13,8,15,10,13 - that totals 32 points under the current best guess for character generation. Lots of assumptions here, but it does go with the idea that magic items/spells don't raise stats like they did in 3.x and that each class has 3 prime attributes.</blockquote>