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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AngryMojo" data-source="post: 5055604" data-attributes="member: 83096">I'm beginning to wonder if something positive can come about from the feat-tax argument if people stop shouting across at one another.  The argument basically boils down to two points being repeated:1. My group has a hard time hitting at high levels/the theorycraft says it's too hard!2. My group does not have a hard time hitting at high levels/the theorycraft says it's not too hard!Both responses are either anecdotal, which is easily dismissed as invalid, or theoretical, which is just as easily dismissed as the same.  Here is what I want to know, in order for something useful to come from the debate: Whichever side of the fence you sit on, what are you doing to influence your opinion.  If your DM uses nothing but soldiers and everyone in your group had a 14 in their primary attack ability at level one, say so.  If your party has all optimized to hit and you have three leaders in your group, say so.  If your DM throws lower/higher level monsters at you, say so.</blockquote>