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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 5552754" data-attributes="member: 67338">first thank you... second my problem is i am not good at argueing my point even when my point is right... I could loose an arguement that the earth is round if the other guy is better with words... that doesn;t make me wrong or him right.second what I am trying to disprove is the quastion the math asks not the answer it gives...if you ask what is 2x2 and someone says 4... but I say that the real way to get the size of the cube is 2x2x2... then you can;t say back "well prove 2x2 isn't 4"maybe I may not say it right...but if people really want to argue... look at my version as well...these arguments remind me of my first girl friend... who use to tell me I never did what she wanted, so I would name things we did that she wanted...then she said those dont count...in the end I realized if nothing I do counts then of cource i do nothing..I did play at epic... up to level 27 once and 23 a fey times... and one game at 30 as a one shot. and with or without expertise is fine...again if you don;t count all the extra options and bonuses, then you are doing 2x2 to get a cube...instead of 2x2x2</blockquote>