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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 5559179" data-attributes="member: 67338">Lets take a look at some more... lets say challangeing end guys...lowest ac 44...highest 52lowest Nads 39 highest Nads 51...lets take the new book of shadows... Lets say i want to play a bad guy and kill Bahamut...is that enough of a challange?Ok, lets start with an 18 attack stat, and an accurate implment...and go for demi god (If I am takeing on a god I might want to take his power higlander syle)+9 stat +6 magic +1 accurate imp+15 half level +31 to hit...since this is an implment attack i will be targeting a NAD... so I need Vs Fort 16, Vs Ref 14 Vs Will 16...So a Volakya Vampire at 30th level without expertise can take on the biggest monster in the game needing a 14-16 to hit. Now if I take expertise... that becomes 11-13 <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> If I flank without expertise it is 12-14If I flank with expertise it is 9-11 <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />Please...I am begging you...tell me I am miss doing this math...becuse the biggest baddest monster in the game (the only level 36 and it is a soldier) by something people are calling a bad striker... who is 6 levels lower then it...can hit it without expertsie...so there is math with and without expertise... but what happens when he faces an equal level (insted of 1 level higher then lev+5) like that pitfiend from the top of the post...without expertise +31 to hit...since this is an implment attack i will be targeting a NAD... so I need Vs Fort 12, Vs Ref 8 Vs Will 10...if I have combat advantage and target ref... I only miss 25% of the time... that is crazy...Put a warlord with that vampire and I think Bahamut will cry...</blockquote>

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