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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4304976" data-attributes="member: 40961">I think its a worthwhile feat.  Remember, it not only improves your basic hit points, it improves your healing surge value.  Your functional "daily" hit points go up by 5+1.25*surges per day at heroic tier.At level 30, a fighter will have15+6*29+con score = 189+con.  That means that Toughness counts as about a 7% hit point boost.At level 30, a wizard will have... I forget exactly, but about 126+con score.  Toughness is more than a 10% boost for him.If you don't like it, skip it, but some people find it worthwhile.</blockquote>