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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7312542" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>The spell is silent on the matter of weight that a creature under its effects can carry. It seems reasonable to declare the player's approach to the goal to be uncertain as it's essentially a grapple against a defending creature. On a success, the bard grapples the villain and they both float at 60 feet per round to the ground. On a fail, the bard fails to grapple the villain and plummets. If the villain is grappled, he or she could certainly try to escape from the grapple and put the bard in a bad spot. I wouldn't go out of my way to talk to the player out of it, but I would make the stakes clear. It's risky, but with the expenditure of Inspiration or other resources, it might be worth risking, depending on the context of the situation.</p><p></p><p>The issue is the bard can't thunderwave, then make a grapple attempt in the same turn so far as I know. So we'd likely be looking at a situation where the bard would have to wait for the next turn. The villain would then be 60 feet lower which may make this a less risky tactic in that the villain's escape from the grapple would potentially be at a lower height.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7312542, member: 97077"] The spell is silent on the matter of weight that a creature under its effects can carry. It seems reasonable to declare the player's approach to the goal to be uncertain as it's essentially a grapple against a defending creature. On a success, the bard grapples the villain and they both float at 60 feet per round to the ground. On a fail, the bard fails to grapple the villain and plummets. If the villain is grappled, he or she could certainly try to escape from the grapple and put the bard in a bad spot. I wouldn't go out of my way to talk to the player out of it, but I would make the stakes clear. It's risky, but with the expenditure of Inspiration or other resources, it might be worth risking, depending on the context of the situation. The issue is the bard can't thunderwave, then make a grapple attempt in the same turn so far as I know. So we'd likely be looking at a situation where the bard would have to wait for the next turn. The villain would then be 60 feet lower which may make this a less risky tactic in that the villain's escape from the grapple would potentially be at a lower height. [/QUOTE]
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