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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7313240" data-attributes="member: 16814">You're having your cake and trying to eat it, too.  You insist that I'm the only one coming up with unnecessary rulings about feather fall when you've made the same kind of ruling, you just claim it's different because it doesn't reside inside the spell but instead outside it.  It still interacts only in cases where feather fall is used, though, so that's a distinction without a difference.To sum up: in a case where additional weight is applied to a creature with feather fall active we both invoke rulings.  The difference, as far as I can tell, is that I set it at the already existing lifting capacity while you set yours at some unspecified point.  A point at which the character will take damage or instantly die, even, rather than my less severe suppression of the effect.  Both show interaction with feather fall, both are rulings about how that interaction occurs, and yet you're overly critical of mine while claiming yours is something completely different (and arbitrary and undefined, so far). Honestly, I wouldn't much care that you do it a different way if you hadn't started this discussion off with a critique of my approach as "thwarting" a players clever tactics.  Apparently, you're okay with such thwarting yourself, so long as the weight is significant enough.If you'd bothered to check the rules on carrying capacity, you might have noticed that a STR 8 non-tiny character has a minimum lift weight of 240 pounds, which should be plenty to accommodate our clever tactician bard.  It's not like I picked a harsh metric to use.  In fact, unless circumstances were unusual (say the bard is a goliath wearing heavy armor and carrying a backpack full of gold) I wouldn't even bother checking it -- as I noted, I said I would be much more likely to just go with it and only call for the opposed check because this was a fun use.  If you're going to hold a grudge over other discussion in other thread about playstyle, please, let me know so I can absolve myself of having to put up with the constant stream of snide accusation of bad intent.  If you don't mean to insinuate bad intent, perhaps you could take a few moments and consider the words you consistently choose to represent opinions that aren't yours.</blockquote>

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