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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 2338591" data-attributes="member: 141">Risen Demons and Fallen AngelsRisen Demon (template):  This template may be applied only to an outsider with the [evil] and [chaotic] subtypes.  Apply the following changes: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The risen demon loses the [evil] subtype. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The risen demon’s damage reduction loses the good component, if present.  If this would improve the damage reduction (as DR 10/cold iron or good is improved by dropping “good”) add vulnerability (+50% damage) to any remaining material elements (e.g. cold iron).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The native plane of a risen demon is the astral plane (for determining the effects of banishment and the like). </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Risen demons gain a negative level for 24 hours if they use a racial ability with the lost subtype (e.g. blasphemy, unholy smite), but can cast spells and use class abilities without penalty.</li> </ul>Risen demons can use and acquire abilities (including spells, feats and class features) that require being a fiend.  Special:  A risen demon ignores the domain prerequisites for the Moral Flexibility feat.  Few have greater insight into good and evil than a risen demon.CR/LA adjustment: +0.  A risen demon is perhaps slightly weaker than a standard demon, but not enough to warrant a difference in CR or LA.By changing a few words, this template can be adapted to risen devils, fallen angels, rogue inevitables, and so on.  Recommended House Rule: Outsiders who lack the [good] subtype cannot enter the prime unless conjured.  Evil outsiders cannot freely enter a good-aligned plane or hallowed ground (if forced to enter, they become [glossary]nauseated[/glossary]).  Native outsiders are not subject to these restrictions.There are normally changes in appearance when this template is applied.  Wings (if present) are often lost, or change in form.  Feathers are typically for angels, but Erinyes have them too.  A fallen angel might have moulting/unkempt feathers, or the traditional bat wings.  Transparent, insect-like wings might be fitting for either a risen demon or a fallen angel.  A kind of fey touch; especially good if a creature is vulnerable to cold iron.  I suppose a risen demon or devil might get back feathered wings, but losing them would be simpler.  If a DM wants to reduce the ECL of an outsider with this template, loss of the ability to fly would be a good first step.  My interpretation of Nehael (before her transformation in Graz'zt's prison) is that she was a risen succubus with the heretical (chaotic evil morals) feat.  This feat gives her keen insights into demonic behavior, and enabled her to rise in Graz'zt's favor.  This didn't help much when he learned of her betrayal, of course!  She was already a risen succubus at the beginning of the story hour, a fact that no-one, herself included, was aware of.  Her alignment was CN (evil tendencies), but became true neutral verging on neutral good because of Eadric's influence.  Her heretical feat, plus the weight of millenia of sins, gave her a strong evil aura, but not as strong as if she had the evil subtype.  Since she counted as an evil outsider (though not an [evil] outsider) she couldn't enter hallowed ground.Nwm's atonement converted her fully to neutral good and wiped away the accumulated taint from her history.  Since she no longer counted as evil, this enabled her to enter hallowed ground (or even Oronthon's heaven, if she had so chosen).  She registers as neutral to alignment detecting magic because of the heretical feat.We haven't seen enough of Nehael since her transformation in Graz'zt's prison to speculate on what the transformation involved.  Though Sep did say she taught Nwm some spells; lots of druid levels, maybe?</blockquote>

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