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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 2356839" data-attributes="member: 141"><p>Speaking of the exalted and exemplar templates.... Sepulchrave mentioned that he never got the "perfect" template quite the way he wanted it. Ironic, that- not being able to get the perfect template just perfect. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> To while the time between posts away, I'll take a stab at it....</p><p></p><p>Let's see, it's a temporary dignity, like <em>paragon</em>, but my impression is that it is superior to the <em>paragon</em> template. Superior to <em>paragon</em> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> That sounds grotesquely overpowered. Perhaps increased duration would work? Eadric was a paragon paladin for like 1 round/level, tops. Maybe if he were perfect it would last a while longer.</p><p></p><p>"Perfect" for me sounds like the flavor text for a natural 20. Using the variant that a natural 20 counts as 30 (which goes along with the variant that a 1 counts as -10), a template that promiscuously adds +10 all over the place might be a good place to start. Either where the celestial rolls a d20 against a fixed DC, or an opponent rolls a d20 against the celestial. Just as long as the +10 gets in on one side or the other. Sounds good. How about this:</p><p></p><p><strong>Perfected</strong></p><p></p><p>"Perfected" is a template that can be added to any exemplar or exalted celestial. It is a temporary dignity, somewhat less dramatic in its effects than the paragon template, but while a creature is typically granted paragon status for a period of no more than a few minutes, a celestial may be graced with perfection for hours or even days at a time.</p><p></p><p>A perfected celestial gains the following benefits, which stack with the benefits of the exemplar or exalted template.</p><p></p><p></p><p>AC: Perfected celestials gain a +10 luck bonus to their AC.</p><p></p><p>Attacks: Perfected celestials gain a +10 luck bonus to all attacks. They ignore miss chances due to concealment.</p><p></p><p><strong>Improved Damage</strong> (Ex): Any attack which can score a critical hit does double damage, as if the celestial had made a critical hit. The additional damage does not apply to opponents who are immune to critical hits. If the perfected celestial threatens and confirms a critical hit in the normal way, the crit multiplier increases by +1.</p><p></p><p>Special Attacks: If a perfected celestial's special attacks can score critical hits, the damage is doubled (see "Improved Damage"). If the perfected celestial possesses any other extraordinary , supernatural or spell-like attacks that otherwise permit a saving throw, the save DC against those attacks increases by +10.</p><p></p><p><strong>Perfected Maximization</strong> (Ex): All variable numeric damage-dealing spell-like abilities of perfected celestials are considered maximized.</p><p></p><p>Special Qualities:</p><p></p><p><strong>Perfected Movement</strong> (Ex): Perfected celestials act under a continuous freedom of movement effect. They do not draw attacks of opportunity. Each round a perfected celestial may take an extra movement action either at the beginning or end of its round.</p><p></p><p><strong>Perfected Reflexes</strong> (Ex): Perfected celestials cannot be flanked, and are never flat-footed.</p><p></p><p><strong>Perfected Will</strong> (Su): Perfected celestials enjoy the benefits of a <em>mind blank</em> spell which cannot be dispelled. They also gain a +20 competence bonus to Concentration checks.</p><p></p><p><strong>Lucky</strong> (Ex): A perfected celestial gets a +10 luck bonus to all ability checks, caster level checks, grapple checks, initiative rolls, saving throws and skill checks.</p><p></p><p>DR: Perfected celestials gain DR /epic. Weapons wielded by perfected celestials are considered to bear epic enchantments.</p><p></p><p>SR: A perfected celestial gets a +10 luck bonus to spell resistance.</p><p></p><p>CR: +10</p><p></p><p></p><p>*****</p><p></p><p>If Sepulchrave ever sees this, perhaps he will be emboldened to share his own "perfect" template. Just because he was not satisfied with it doesn't mean that it was not better than this.</p><p></p><p>Of course, if anyone else thinks they can improve upon perfection, (<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />) I encourage them to post their suggestions here!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 2356839, member: 141"] Speaking of the exalted and exemplar templates.... Sepulchrave mentioned that he never got the "perfect" template quite the way he wanted it. Ironic, that- not being able to get the perfect template just perfect. :) To while the time between posts away, I'll take a stab at it.... Let's see, it's a temporary dignity, like [i]paragon[/i], but my impression is that it is superior to the [i]paragon[/i] template. Superior to [i]paragon[/i] :uhoh: That sounds grotesquely overpowered. Perhaps increased duration would work? Eadric was a paragon paladin for like 1 round/level, tops. Maybe if he were perfect it would last a while longer. "Perfect" for me sounds like the flavor text for a natural 20. Using the variant that a natural 20 counts as 30 (which goes along with the variant that a 1 counts as -10), a template that promiscuously adds +10 all over the place might be a good place to start. Either where the celestial rolls a d20 against a fixed DC, or an opponent rolls a d20 against the celestial. Just as long as the +10 gets in on one side or the other. Sounds good. How about this: [b]Perfected[/b] "Perfected" is a template that can be added to any exemplar or exalted celestial. It is a temporary dignity, somewhat less dramatic in its effects than the paragon template, but while a creature is typically granted paragon status for a period of no more than a few minutes, a celestial may be graced with perfection for hours or even days at a time. A perfected celestial gains the following benefits, which stack with the benefits of the exemplar or exalted template. AC: Perfected celestials gain a +10 luck bonus to their AC. Attacks: Perfected celestials gain a +10 luck bonus to all attacks. They ignore miss chances due to concealment. [b]Improved Damage[/b] (Ex): Any attack which can score a critical hit does double damage, as if the celestial had made a critical hit. The additional damage does not apply to opponents who are immune to critical hits. If the perfected celestial threatens and confirms a critical hit in the normal way, the crit multiplier increases by +1. Special Attacks: If a perfected celestial's special attacks can score critical hits, the damage is doubled (see "Improved Damage"). If the perfected celestial possesses any other extraordinary , supernatural or spell-like attacks that otherwise permit a saving throw, the save DC against those attacks increases by +10. [b]Perfected Maximization[/b] (Ex): All variable numeric damage-dealing spell-like abilities of perfected celestials are considered maximized. Special Qualities: [b]Perfected Movement[/b] (Ex): Perfected celestials act under a continuous freedom of movement effect. They do not draw attacks of opportunity. Each round a perfected celestial may take an extra movement action either at the beginning or end of its round. [B]Perfected Reflexes[/B] (Ex): Perfected celestials cannot be flanked, and are never flat-footed. [B]Perfected Will[/B] (Su): Perfected celestials enjoy the benefits of a [i]mind blank[/i] spell which cannot be dispelled. They also gain a +20 competence bonus to Concentration checks. [b]Lucky[/b] (Ex): A perfected celestial gets a +10 luck bonus to all ability checks, caster level checks, grapple checks, initiative rolls, saving throws and skill checks. DR: Perfected celestials gain DR /epic. Weapons wielded by perfected celestials are considered to bear epic enchantments. SR: A perfected celestial gets a +10 luck bonus to spell resistance. CR: +10 ***** If Sepulchrave ever sees this, perhaps he will be emboldened to share his own "perfect" template. Just because he was not satisfied with it doesn't mean that it was not better than this. Of course, if anyone else thinks they can improve upon perfection, (;)) I encourage them to post their suggestions here! [/QUOTE]
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