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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7356776" data-attributes="member: 6716779">I want to try a game without feats but the players are addicted to them.I actually added 10 more feats to the game and added a bonus feat at level 1 houserule (from a reduced list) just to try and get them away from the obvious ones (usually GMW, SS, Shield Master, Healer).&nbsp;My main objection is kind of power creep. Without them though I notice you tend to get a lot more dex based characters. &nbsp;Another way I kind of deal with them is just do not put magic polearms and hand cross bows in. Sure players can take the obvious feats but not going to feed the powergamer.&nbsp;Mistwell you are about where I was towards the end of 3.5 and 4E dying. Started thinking about things like &quot;Does this stuff make the game more fun&quot; and how did we have fun with B/X back in the day with F all options and modern D&amp;D can be 0 fun at times&quot;.&nbsp;My 1st fighter was more or less a 3E warrior (with better saves) and I still had fin in B/X.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 7356776, member: 6716779"] I want to try a game without feats but the players are addicted to them. I actually added 10 more feats to the game and added a bonus feat at level 1 houserule (from a reduced list) just to try and get them away from the obvious ones (usually GMW, SS, Shield Master, Healer). My main objection is kind of power creep. Without them though I notice you tend to get a lot more dex based characters. Another way I kind of deal with them is just do not put magic polearms and hand cross bows in. Sure players can take the obvious feats but not going to feed the powergamer. Mistwell you are about where I was towards the end of 3.5 and 4E dying. Started thinking about things like "Does this stuff make the game more fun" and how did we have fun with B/X back in the day with F all options and modern D&D can be 0 fun at times". My 1st fighter was more or less a 3E warrior (with better saves) and I still had fin in B/X. [/QUOTE]

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