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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7357158" data-attributes="member: 2525">Fair enough for auto-success (though if I were the player who spent a feat to auto-intercept a blow to my mount and every other player could do the exact same thing with a skill check I might be bugged by that), but a lot of what I mentioned isn't auto-success. Here is the first example I gave. How do you address this issue (and it's the same for the Linguist cipher as well)?Actor: &quot;You can mimic the speech of another person or the sounds made by other creatures. You must have heard the person speaking, or heard the creature make the sound, for at least 1 minute. A successful Wisdom (Insight) check contested by your Charisma (Deception) check allows a listener to determine that the effect is faked.&quot;Without this feat in the game, why wouldn't you be able to try a Charisma (Deception) check to try and mimic the speech of another person or sound made by other creatures, contested by a Wisdom (Insight) check? And if Player X has this feat in your game, wouldn't it be natural for a DM to tell Player Y they cannot try that because they don't have the feat and it would step on the toes of Player X who spent a precious resource to gain that &quot;ability&quot;?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7357158, member: 2525"] Fair enough for auto-success (though if I were the player who spent a feat to auto-intercept a blow to my mount and every other player could do the exact same thing with a skill check I might be bugged by that), but a lot of what I mentioned isn't auto-success. Here is the first example I gave. How do you address this issue (and it's the same for the Linguist cipher as well)? Actor: "You can mimic the speech of another person or the sounds made by other creatures. You must have heard the person speaking, or heard the creature make the sound, for at least 1 minute. A successful Wisdom (Insight) check contested by your Charisma (Deception) check allows a listener to determine that the effect is faked." Without this feat in the game, why wouldn't you be able to try a Charisma (Deception) check to try and mimic the speech of another person or sound made by other creatures, contested by a Wisdom (Insight) check? And if Player X has this feat in your game, wouldn't it be natural for a DM to tell Player Y they cannot try that because they don't have the feat and it would step on the toes of Player X who spent a precious resource to gain that "ability"? [/QUOTE]

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