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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7358076" data-attributes="member: 2525">Oh boy I wake up the next day to 11 notifications...about this thread. I guess that's how you know you wrote a controversial post. Now I know how [MENTION=6691635]Zard[/MENTION]inar feels <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Though...I don't like that. I don't have the time to offer a thoughtful reply to people who replied to me. I do think there is something to the point that there is a difference between a feat which establish new conceptual space, with feats which explore existing mechanical space. I think most of my objection is to the feats which expand on what you can try to do with an ability (skill) check. Too often, it's something that was already arguably a thing you could try to do with an ability check.&nbsp; I think a bigger section on, &quot;things ability checks might be used for&quot; that described some of the things listed in the feats (along with some guidelines on DCs and adjudication for the DM) would have been a better use of that design concept than the feats. And for people who are &quot;better&quot; at doing that type of ability check than others, you can have bonuses for those who have an existing ability from a class or background or race, without making it exclusive to them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7358076, member: 2525"] Oh boy I wake up the next day to 11 notifications...about this thread. I guess that's how you know you wrote a controversial post. Now I know how [MENTION=6691635]Zard[/MENTION]inar feels :) Though...I don't like that. I don't have the time to offer a thoughtful reply to people who replied to me. I do think there is something to the point that there is a difference between a feat which establish new conceptual space, with feats which explore existing mechanical space. I think most of my objection is to the feats which expand on what you can try to do with an ability (skill) check. Too often, it's something that was already arguably a thing you could try to do with an ability check. I think a bigger section on, "things ability checks might be used for" that described some of the things listed in the feats (along with some guidelines on DCs and adjudication for the DM) would have been a better use of that design concept than the feats. And for people who are "better" at doing that type of ability check than others, you can have bonuses for those who have an existing ability from a class or background or race, without making it exclusive to them. [/QUOTE]

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