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<blockquote data-quote="Buttercup" data-source="post: 1930058" data-attributes="member: 990">Evidently I'm in a small minority that likes the +2 to two skills feats.&nbsp; I have a dex based fighter who took Athletic and will probably at some point also take Skill Focus (Tumble).&nbsp; Combine that with Dodge, Mobility and Spring attack, and it's an essential part of her fighting style.&nbsp; I can imagine reasons to take every other one of the skills enhancing feats too.&nbsp;I disagree.&nbsp; I think taking it as a feat simulates the character having learned to do this.&nbsp;&nbsp;Hmm.&nbsp; Well, I give it automatically to all Sorcerers, so I wouldn't call it useless.&nbsp; Still, it could become a class feature.&nbsp;I have yet to have a player wish to make a magic item, so I don't have an opinion.&nbsp; Your idea seems sound, though.&nbsp;Consider this yoinked.&nbsp;Again, consider this yoinked.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Interesting point.&nbsp; Most players wear either light or heavy armor, so perhaps this makes sense. &nbsp;Yoink!&nbsp;Works for me.&nbsp; Yoink!&nbsp;I think every Wizard and Sorcerer would take this at first level.&nbsp; Therefore, it's probably too powerful. Now if it could not be taken unless the subject had a CON of 13+, or perhaps at higher than 1st level, I'd buy it.&nbsp;In fact, I've been contemplating this change.&nbsp; I think it's a pretty common house rule.&nbsp;Love that Arcana Unearthed!&nbsp; &nbsp;Yoink!&nbsp;ditto above.&nbsp;I love this!&nbsp; Now if only I could convince my DM to use it this way.&nbsp; (Wanders off to talk to Steve Creech....)&nbsp;And here I thought it was just in my games that nobody bothered with these.&nbsp; Still, I can't think of many uses for mounted combat in the sort of games I run, so I don't much care.&nbsp; Sounds good though.&nbsp;Yoink!&nbsp;&nbsp;+4 yes, penalty for exceeding maximum rank, no.&nbsp; Some people really *are* remarkably skilled.&nbsp; And if a PC wants to spend a feat on something like this, I don't think it's appropriate to screw 'em over for it.&nbsp; All hail roleplayers!&nbsp;Yoink!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Buttercup, post: 1930058, member: 990"] Evidently I'm in a small minority that likes the +2 to two skills feats. I have a dex based fighter who took Athletic and will probably at some point also take Skill Focus (Tumble). Combine that with Dodge, Mobility and Spring attack, and it's an essential part of her fighting style. I can imagine reasons to take every other one of the skills enhancing feats too. I disagree. I think taking it as a feat simulates the character having learned to do this. Hmm. Well, I give it automatically to all Sorcerers, so I wouldn't call it useless. Still, it could become a class feature. I have yet to have a player wish to make a magic item, so I don't have an opinion. Your idea seems sound, though. Consider this yoinked. Again, consider this yoinked. Interesting point. Most players wear either light or heavy armor, so perhaps this makes sense. Yoink! Works for me. Yoink! I think every Wizard and Sorcerer would take this at first level. Therefore, it's probably too powerful. Now if it could not be taken unless the subject had a CON of 13+, or perhaps at higher than 1st level, I'd buy it. In fact, I've been contemplating this change. I think it's a pretty common house rule. Love that Arcana Unearthed! Yoink! ditto above. I love this! Now if only I could convince my DM to use it this way. (Wanders off to talk to Steve Creech....) And here I thought it was just in my games that nobody bothered with these. Still, I can't think of many uses for mounted combat in the sort of games I run, so I don't much care. Sounds good though. Yoink! +4 yes, penalty for exceeding maximum rank, no. Some people really *are* remarkably skilled. And if a PC wants to spend a feat on something like this, I don't think it's appropriate to screw 'em over for it. All hail roleplayers! Yoink! [/QUOTE]

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