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<blockquote data-quote="twilsemail" data-source="post: 5398072" data-attributes="member: 79628">I think you mean the Expertise feats from PHB2.&nbsp; Weapon Focus (PHB) is just bonus damage for a weapon group.&nbsp;&nbsp;The 15/25 bumps were bandaids for a math error made in the early stages of 4e's life.&nbsp; The error never got fixed in the rules so they added a feat to cover for it.&nbsp; There's a ton of analysis on the error out there.&nbsp; You can find it if your Google Fu is strong.&nbsp;&nbsp;That's mostly a call from your group.&nbsp; I would side with the latter half.&nbsp; Generally new rules are a good excuse for retraining.&nbsp;&nbsp;The Essentials feats are also available a tier earlier.&nbsp; In the end, them being available sooner doesn't ruin the game at all, it's a feat slot that they're dedicating to defense instead of offense and the utility of that decision depends wholly on their build and concept.&nbsp;&nbsp;The new feats are just that, mostly.&nbsp; Most feats in HotF* are new feats with new names.&nbsp; The ones that aren't are considered errata by WotC.&nbsp; The expertise feats, specifically, are new feats.&nbsp; They are 100% better than the generic in every case, but they're new and not meant to replace the old options.&nbsp;I hope this was helpful in some way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="twilsemail, post: 5398072, member: 79628"] I think you mean the Expertise feats from PHB2. Weapon Focus (PHB) is just bonus damage for a weapon group. The 15/25 bumps were bandaids for a math error made in the early stages of 4e's life. The error never got fixed in the rules so they added a feat to cover for it. There's a ton of analysis on the error out there. You can find it if your Google Fu is strong. That's mostly a call from your group. I would side with the latter half. Generally new rules are a good excuse for retraining. The Essentials feats are also available a tier earlier. In the end, them being available sooner doesn't ruin the game at all, it's a feat slot that they're dedicating to defense instead of offense and the utility of that decision depends wholly on their build and concept. The new feats are just that, mostly. Most feats in HotF* are new feats with new names. The ones that aren't are considered errata by WotC. The expertise feats, specifically, are new feats. They are 100% better than the generic in every case, but they're new and not meant to replace the old options. I hope this was helpful in some way. [/QUOTE]

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