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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8399991" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Sharpshooter is definitely OP. No, it can't be translated as a feat that gives you +10 damage. But it easily outcompetes every other option given in the PHB, except possibly for the other feat using the same abusable mechanism (GWM). The latter gives a bit extra damage, but suffers the considerable disadvantage of working only in melee.</p><p></p><p>That WotC keeps pretending this isn't a problem is shameful.</p><p></p><p>It is possible WotC has accidentally added more feats that can compare to it in later books, but those books did not exist when this thread was active. Plus,</p><p>a) "this thing is also OP" is not a good argument </p><p>b) adding more broken features is not a good way to redress a balance issue</p><p></p><p>Anyway, the math of the +10/-5 mechanism has been extensively studied elsewhere, and has been comprehensively proven to be eminently abusable. So let's not walk down that particular rabbit hole again and simply agree the mechanism is unsuitable for every gaming group. Perhaps putting it harshly: "just because you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done."</p><p></p><p>(Yes, some groups don't care about damage and optimal play, and for those groups keeping the feat would not matter. On the other hand, removing it would do no harm. That's why I'm including every group even though some don't care and some don't even notice it.)</p><p></p><p>As a preemptive "sorry": no, I won't engage if anyone wants to argue. The issue has been settled for years, and you will have to find someone else to discuss it with. Personally I recommend you search the forums. Trust me, everything that can be said about those feats has already been said.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 8399991, member: 12731"] Sharpshooter is definitely OP. No, it can't be translated as a feat that gives you +10 damage. But it easily outcompetes every other option given in the PHB, except possibly for the other feat using the same abusable mechanism (GWM). The latter gives a bit extra damage, but suffers the considerable disadvantage of working only in melee. That WotC keeps pretending this isn't a problem is shameful. It is possible WotC has accidentally added more feats that can compare to it in later books, but those books did not exist when this thread was active. Plus, a) "this thing is also OP" is not a good argument b) adding more broken features is not a good way to redress a balance issue Anyway, the math of the +10/-5 mechanism has been extensively studied elsewhere, and has been comprehensively proven to be eminently abusable. So let's not walk down that particular rabbit hole again and simply agree the mechanism is unsuitable for every gaming group. Perhaps putting it harshly: "just because you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done." (Yes, some groups don't care about damage and optimal play, and for those groups keeping the feat would not matter. On the other hand, removing it would do no harm. That's why I'm including every group even though some don't care and some don't even notice it.) As a preemptive "sorry": no, I won't engage if anyone wants to argue. The issue has been settled for years, and you will have to find someone else to discuss it with. Personally I recommend you search the forums. Trust me, everything that can be said about those feats has already been said. [/QUOTE]
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