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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tequila Sunrise" data-source="post: 5899276" data-attributes="member: 40398">My bad. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Agreed 100%. I have an innate bonus system somewhat like VoP, but it's not tied to alignments or feats. It's just there so players don't need the Big 6, and I can focus on giving them cool stuff.Sounds like a good rule!So I would make an attack, and declare it as a stunning attack? Then roll attack, damage and calculate the DC? That sounds awesome. Possibly OP. It'd handily shut down anything without a very high fort save.I suspect Stunning Fist would become the Quicken Spell of the non-casters. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>