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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3237158" data-attributes="member: 141">In addition to the reasons you state, it follows a standard formula.  Not some weird mechanic like Terrifying Rage uses.  We can make these kinds of abilities rather less common, but I don't think we can eliminate them entirely. Besides... Assassins should be feared, shouldn't they?Re: I propose we contrive no feats...I imagine you must be tired of me quoting UK, but I can't help but think his work will be well known and well-regarded by folks interested in epic gaming.  At the very least, his thought processes are different from ours, and serve as a useful foil. That being said,I notice that the flavor text does not quite agree with the mechanical benefit, but I suspect that, whether we contrive them or not, people are going to find ways to shorten the 3 round waiting period.  If it is a real problem we may have to specifically say we think it is a problem, and suggest an alternative (a bonus to the save DC, or something).  I think this problem is less obvious than disjunction, which we could get away with not mentioning; the non-shortenability might need to be called out.It seems quite balanced, but I don't know if the change is necessary. The fact that the Fort Save is a flat DC 27 might be enough to make it moot.  Creatures who fail their save on a 1 would fail their massive damage save on a 1 as well, wouldn't they?  (Which reminds me- were you saying something about the save DC for massive damage increasing with the damage done?)</blockquote>

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