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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy" data-source="post: 523093" data-attributes="member: 4036">I don't know.&nbsp; I just can't see Implosion as, &quot;Oh, that happens when I point at someone.&quot;&nbsp; It's a 9th level spell.&nbsp; I see it as taking a tremendous amount of concentration and will to employ.&nbsp; And I cannot see someone with 1 INT picturing an area they want to be in, figuring out how to get there, then teleporting without error over there.&nbsp; ((If it takes no effort, concentration, intelligence, or will power, what's to keep them from constantly accidentally teleporting or imploding or fire storming?))If a demon were down to 1 INT I'd run him as having reverted back to his most basic form.&nbsp; Rip, tear, shred, die.No flying around using a flame whip, no teleporting to high ground and laying down a fire storm, I'd look at his stat block and make him an animal with 1 INT.For a good portrayal of a 1 INT dragon, check out Brinedeath the Dog in PirateCat's story hour.&nbsp; Running along through the forest, jumping to reach flying objects that look neat, unaware that it is one of the most powerful creatures on the planet.I think a 3 INT idiot would be blissfully ignorant of just about everything.&nbsp; A 2 INT sick man would be feral, acting only on instinct.&nbsp; And a 1 INT sap would be a drooling idiot who doesn't know any better then to not defecate on himself.&nbsp; I can't see someone like that traversing the Astral Plane to arrive instantaneously along the proper vector at a designated point on the prime material plane.&nbsp; I certainly can't see him opening gates to the Abyss or causing the fabric of reality to implode around an adventurer.But if you think it should still be able to deal with rational logistics like range, duration, targetting, area of effects, and use his will to bend the Weave to his liking to produce magical effects as a 20th level sorcerer...&nbsp; Well, I think that phrase there should be rather telling.&nbsp; But it's up to you.&nbsp; That's just my opinion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeremy, post: 523093, member: 4036"] I don't know. I just can't see Implosion as, "Oh, that happens when I point at someone." It's a 9th level spell. I see it as taking a tremendous amount of concentration and will to employ. And I cannot see someone with 1 INT picturing an area they want to be in, figuring out how to get there, then teleporting without error over there. ((If it takes no effort, concentration, intelligence, or will power, what's to keep them from constantly accidentally teleporting or imploding or fire storming?)) If a demon were down to 1 INT I'd run him as having reverted back to his most basic form. Rip, tear, shred, die. No flying around using a flame whip, no teleporting to high ground and laying down a fire storm, I'd look at his stat block and make him an animal with 1 INT. For a good portrayal of a 1 INT dragon, check out Brinedeath the Dog in PirateCat's story hour. Running along through the forest, jumping to reach flying objects that look neat, unaware that it is one of the most powerful creatures on the planet. I think a 3 INT idiot would be blissfully ignorant of just about everything. A 2 INT sick man would be feral, acting only on instinct. And a 1 INT sap would be a drooling idiot who doesn't know any better then to not defecate on himself. I can't see someone like that traversing the Astral Plane to arrive instantaneously along the proper vector at a designated point on the prime material plane. I certainly can't see him opening gates to the Abyss or causing the fabric of reality to implode around an adventurer. But if you think it should still be able to deal with rational logistics like range, duration, targetting, area of effects, and use his will to bend the Weave to his liking to produce magical effects as a 20th level sorcerer... Well, I think that phrase there should be rather telling. But it's up to you. That's just my opinion. [/QUOTE]

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