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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rakin" data-source="post: 3851315" data-attributes="member: 34721">Here's my story real quick:I started playing D&D with 2E, at the time I was a player. I read the books over and over, I loved the monsters and the fun of playing, but I don't think I could of DM'd a game back then, for if no other reason than THAC0 destroying my brain. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Anywho, after moving away from my good friend and fellow player I kind of dropped the game and picked it back up in college with 3.0, then with 3.5, and I now have $100's of dollars in D&D books, that I probably really couldn't afford. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> In any case, I had a hard time running 3.5. It was really stressing me out, I went through a period where I would just so frustrated with myself for not having rules memorized, and how many times I had to stop or slow gameplay. I was constantly stressed that might players might know more than I and I wanted to follow the rules to the T, well mainly because I believed they were there and the way they were for a reason. Well it wasn't too long before I got fed up with the clunky games, and I went into a gaming depression (looking back, that sounds so silly haha) and I went searching. Like most I tried C&C. It was ok (sorry C&C folks). I mean it was a good system, but it just seemed like it was missing something and it is, it's made to be like that, but again I didn't have the huge experience to house rule what I needed to in order to make it work as well as I liked. I guess in the end it was just too simple (well that and I wanted a system with casting times damnit! And I got sick of coming up with challenge ratings, I didn't want to feel like I was coming up with the outcome of everything anymore)In any case, I contacted EGG (Gygax) about my problems in feeling lost and his advice. Well he offered his Lejendary Adventure gaming system. I tried the quick start rules, and I just didn't get it. I mean where is everything in that game? I couldn't make the connection, I couldn't make it D&D. SO I gave up on that...I continued to either not play or try and force myself through 3.5, but only half enjoying my sessions. I'd walk away feeling "eh" and getting more and more tired of working my butt of for medicore playing sessions.So back to research. After looking around, I went back to Lejendary Adventure, and peeked at it again. At this point I was so ready for something new. I mean new new, something that just changes everything, and after reading over the quick start again, and some forum posts, I had found it. Lejendary Adventure, and there it was under my nose this whole time.Guys, and gals, I'm not trying to convert you, I dont' want you to drop the game you enjoy to run into the arms of the LA crowd, but I want to offer you this saving grace. If you feel lost, like I did. If 3.5 is just not cutting it for you, and if 4E does not appeal to you at all, and you think it's time for something new NEW! People, I mean new new. Remember fireball? The spell you've cast 1980380983478 times in the last 30 years? No more instead it is replaced with more interesting, fun, well thought out powers.What does LA do you ask? Well I don't want to get to much into it (without being asked anyway) since this is a D20 4E forum, but it does a lot of great things:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Casting times for "spells" (spells are in quotes because they're called Extraordinary Activations in LA.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> )</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Armor absorbs harm, instead of AC. Remember how after level 6, goblins can't touch you anymore, this aint the case with LA.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">More deadly gameplay, which in turn allows players to have more interesting and powerful abilities, which are fun to use, that never really cause them to be over powered.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">More team oriented</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Skill based system that requires creativiness versus just rules memorization.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Creating a "character" is fun again, and the Ability sets actually help in creating a background and personality</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Easier to GM, you can add or leave anything out really and it won't break the system</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Being a rules lite system it empowers the GM agian, giving rules lawyers less of a leg to stand on</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Success requires more skill and creativness on the players part versus just having higher stats</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Every fight in LA is meaningful and deadly versus random encounters just being an annoyance</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">All new Gygax monsters, and even newly done old monsters redone, even better than they were</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">New core races, that are all interesting and all wildly different</li> </ul>Now who is LA for? Well everyone, but who should be interested into looking into it? I suggest folks that want something new, why? Because it is new(well not new new, but new to you), and wildly different, it takes a mind shift to really "get". To get it you can't be trying to make it something it's not. You can't try to make it D&D or AD&D, you have to play it as LA, you have to embrace the rules and trust Gary Gygax's writings as you once did x number of years back and just follow the rules of the game.Now how can you get involved in LA if you are lost and are in dire need of something new, fresh, exciting, easy to use, and is fun?Here's some info:Forums: <a href="http://www.lejendary.com/forums/phpBB2/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.lejendary.com/forums/phpBB2/index.php</a> <a href="http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=13&mforum=trolllordgames" target="_blank">http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=13&mforum=trolllordgames</a> <a href="http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=3" target="_blank">http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=3</a> Products: <a href="http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/lejendary/3350.html" target="_blank">http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/lejendary/3350.html</a> - Essentials, aka a watered down version of the content (more than enough to start playing though!) <a href="http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/lejendary/3352.html" target="_blank">http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/lejendary/3352.html</a> <a href="http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/lejendary/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/lejendary/index.html</a> - list of all of Troll Lord’s LA stuff Quick start, with premade Avatars, doesn’t give the game full justice, but gives a good example of play: <a href="http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/lejendary/downloads/TLG3350A.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.trolllord.com/newsite/lejendary/downloads/TLG3350A.pdf</a> List of Avatar sheets (the website is old and outdated, but these sheets are still good): <a href="http://www.lejendary.com/la/template.php?page=ars&style=blaze" target="_blank">http://www.lejendary.com/la/template.php?page=ars&style=blaze</a> Old full rule books (Now out of print): <a href="http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?item=9&ret=fuzzyheroes.com%2Fcatalog.php%3Fpage%3D1%26keyword%3DLejendary" target="_blank">http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?item=9&ret=fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?page=1&keyword=Lejendary</a> <a href="http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?item=15&ret=fuzzyheroes.com%2Fcatalog.php%3Fpage%3D1%26keyword%3Dlejend" target="_blank">http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?item=15&ret=fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?page=1&keyword=lejend</a> <a href="http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?item=12&ret=fuzzyheroes.com%2Fcatalog.php%3Fpage%3D1%26keyword%3Dlejend" target="_blank">http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?item=12&ret=fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?page=1&keyword=lejend</a> <a href="http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?item=16&ret=fuzzyheroes.com%2Fcatalog.php%3Fpage%3D1%26keyword%3Dlejend" target="_blank">http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?item=16&ret=fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?page=1&keyword=lejend</a> <a href="http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?item=22&catid=Hekaforge%20Productions&ret=fuzzyheroes.com%2Fcatalog.php%3Fpage%3D2%26category%3DHekaforge%2520Productions" target="_blank">http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?item=22&catid=Hekaforge Productions&ret=fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?page=2&category=Hekaforge%20Productions</a> <a href="http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?page=1&category=Hekaforge%20Productions" target="_blank">http://www.fuzzyheroes.com/catalog.php?page=1&category=Hekaforge Productions</a> – Big list of old out of print stuff you can still buy. Lejendary Adventure Errata: <a href="http://www.lejendary.com/la/template.php?page=errata&style=blaze" target="_blank">http://www.lejendary.com/la/template.php?page=errata&style=blaze</a> Portal Magazine <a href="http://www.freewebtown.com/the_portal/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.freewebtown.com/the_portal/index.html</a>Now I'm currently using the Essentials and trust me, it's plenty to start playing, and in fact I almost suggest starting out with it, so you're not hit in the face with a whole lot of brand new things to swallow.Quote from Steve at Troll Lord:So things are going to get real exciting here as the revised editions are reprinted in hardback the beginning of next year. (March/April)Gary has also stated that he has 7 years of materials to get published for LA, so there won't be a short on things to aquire, and if they things being published are on par on quality with what's already out, things are about to get amazing.So! Here's the cattle call folks, let me know if you have any questions about the game and I would be very happy to oblige.Game on friends!</blockquote>

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