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<blockquote data-quote="F5" data-source="post: 4332628" data-attributes="member: 4607">I'm coming to this conversation a bit late, I know, but the OP's opinion is very similar to mine...it feels like significant chunks of what I consider &quot;D&amp;D&quot; are missing from 4E, and it feels like they're being dangled in front of us in an attempt to get more of us to buy PHB2.But, as I think about it, the classes that got left out make sense.&nbsp; These are the classes that were hardest to shoehorn into certain campaigns.&nbsp; What do you do with the druid class if you don't want to focus on nature-magic in your world?&nbsp; Or if ALL magic comes from &quot;nature&quot; in some way?&nbsp; If you have no Far East, where do the Monks come from?&nbsp; The classes that they included, while very specific in role, are all pretty vague in terms of fluff.&nbsp; You can make them fit almost anywhere, or come from almost any background.&nbsp; The Bard, Druid, Barbarian and Monk, while awesome classes that I will miss, have the most implied background material, and therefore are the least adaptable.&nbsp; I can see why, in a basic rulebook, they would have left them out.Amazon says that PHB2 should be out in March of 09.&nbsp; My personal solution?&nbsp; I'll just hold off on any new 4E campaigns until then.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="F5, post: 4332628, member: 4607"] I'm coming to this conversation a bit late, I know, but the OP's opinion is very similar to mine...it feels like significant chunks of what I consider "D&D" are missing from 4E, and it feels like they're being dangled in front of us in an attempt to get more of us to buy PHB2. But, as I think about it, the classes that got left out make sense. These are the classes that were hardest to shoehorn into certain campaigns. What do you do with the druid class if you don't want to focus on nature-magic in your world? Or if ALL magic comes from "nature" in some way? If you have no Far East, where do the Monks come from? The classes that they included, while very specific in role, are all pretty vague in terms of fluff. You can make them fit almost anywhere, or come from almost any background. The Bard, Druid, Barbarian and Monk, while awesome classes that I will miss, have the most implied background material, and therefore are the least adaptable. I can see why, in a basic rulebook, they would have left them out. Amazon says that PHB2 should be out in March of 09. My personal solution? I'll just hold off on any new 4E campaigns until then. [/QUOTE]

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