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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gorrstagg" data-source="post: 2186729" data-attributes="member: 15863">There is a lot more going on here than just getting upset.And to have lingering doubts about your ability to DM is unusual. You were challenged inappropriately, but you had to lay the law down. Okay not a big deal. That you stopped playing so you didn't take it out on your players was a smart thing.But, the guy apologized profusely. Realized how damn wrong he was. Life should go on.If your not sure you can DM because of this, I would be asking myself why?If it's the player being present, and your losing face in front of others. Well you have three choices. Kick him out and get back to playing. Get back to playing with him in the group. Or just give up and hide away.Truth of the matter is, it seems your experiencing the challenge portion very strongly and it's affected you more than you realize. But you have to consider, like a good leader, either you get back up from the challenge as if Nothing happened, and move on with the story. Or step aside for someone else to do the job.You need to remember, he wasn't truly challenging you despite what it seems like. He was challenging the running numbers, which by the way may of been a problem with another DM of his in the past. Thus you inherited it part and parcel. Now that you've shown them your information that was kept track of, you either move on or move out.And by the way, regardless of whether you or he was correct, numbers mistakes happen.I've had players keep track of damage dealt to a specific foe, (though they don't know how effective the damage was, due to not knowing if said monster had DR or a resistance of somekind.) That conflicted with my information, and over the years, sometimes they were right, and sometimes I was right. Because I made a mistake and marked the damage down on another opponent.But I didn't take it personal. And after a short review, I would state my final ruling and move on. Why would I get offended by a player tracking stuff?It keeps him busy and at the gaming table.Your probably unhappy because the challenge lasted so long. And that's something YOU need to deal with personally on a private level with yourself.Do I think the player was wrong for being stubborn about his information? Yes I do. And I would also give him a one time final warning. If he disrupted play like that again, and didn't take my final ruling, he's out of the group. No questions asked. Just get up pack your gear and leave the game. Then I would take a 5-10 minute break and make sure he didn't key a car, and watch him leave. Then we get back to gaming.~~~~I consider myself a rules lawyer as a DM. I like to know the crunchy stuff so I can run it properly. And every now and then I will make a mistake and a player will point it out. I'll thank them, because how likely will I be to make that mistake in the future? Very unlikely. And it doesn't diminish me as a DM.It's human to make mistakes, and it's human to forgive.So forgive yourself, and the player. Lay down the law, and move on.This isn't even remotely enough to stop someone from DMing.. and if it is.. it's not the problem in question that is causing the stoppage. That's the DM in question.(I have been gaming 23 years, so I'm not some green newb with this perspective. It's been gained over many years with many different groups of people and experiences.)</blockquote>

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