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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5459338" data-attributes="member: 8835">I agree its no fun to play with a habitual cheater.  Especially when it comes at the expense of making others look worse.In the times I've cheated, I was much younger, and it was life or death, and it didn't seem to hurt anybody (and in fact helped the party).One specific time, the BBEG was killing the party, and I was the last to roll an attack before the BBEG was going to start killing PCs.  I rolled a miss.  The GM was still taking notes.  Everybody else was silent.  I can't remember if it was me or my neighbor, but a finger went out and poked the die.  It turned to 20 and the table cheered as I critted the BBEG, killing him, and saving the party.I'd say I had party approval.  the victory was memorable as us vs. the GM, not as "my PC saved the day"  All the players knew what happened, was that we narrowly avoided a TPK becuase the GM wasn't paying attention.Personally, i roll out in the open, and wait to roll until its really my turn.I don't like cheating (though i don't mind tricking the DM).  I don't like PCs who are "everywhere" or "always hitting despite the odds" as it tends to make me look like a putz compared to that PC.I agree that sarcasm and such won't fix it.  If you want it fixed, being straightforward and calm is probably the fairest approach.  He may get huffy and quit, but like the cheating, that's his disfunction, not yours.  Its also best to consider keeping it between you and him, or the GM and him.  If you want him to change, he's got to be able to save face.  Make him look bad in front of the group, and you challenge his ego.  Despite the fact that the situation is all his fault.I suppose the least confrontational method is for the DM to institute an open rolling in the Dice Pit rule.  Meaning all rolls happen in the box in the center of the table.  You can claim its to reduce the amount of runaway dice (I have some friends who can't seem to keep their rolls on the tableAt my table:cocked dice don't count (reroll)floor dice don't count (reroll)rolls have to be in the open for playersGM reserves right to do his rolls private (as some should be)</blockquote>

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