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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Haltherrion" data-source="post: 5462291" data-attributes="member: 18253">That's because the other poster related a fairly messy way of handling this <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> It was a pretty confrontational way of resolving such a situation.  That might be worth considering for its own sake but it is likely to only cause the player in question to alter his method of fudging rolls. From your own player-satisfaction perspective, it seems it would result in a period of false hope followed by more angst with the problem, i.e., just delay resolution. I think you need to buckle down and either talk to the ref or talk to the player. The latter is preferred as a starting point. It doesn't have to be a long conversation and it would be useful to gather a little information. That is, record some clear cut cases of fudged rolls and then talk to that person that night, maybe even during a break. You can keep it short and you should cut it off if the player gets defensive or argumentative. But if you go to the ref after having tried to talk to the player, it is a lot cleaner. If someone is fudging rolls regularly, you can expect them to have rationalized it in their heads already and not be very receptive to your own feedback. They will likely deny it while all the time thinking, hey, it's just a game. But the point is more the process. You will know you gave the player a chance to resolve it before going to the ref, and the ref will also appreciate you tried to keep him or her out of it. I wouldn't ignore this problem. Seems like it has risen to the level of being quite a bother to you.</blockquote>

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