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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CuRoi" data-source="post: 5463297" data-attributes="member: 98032">Something else we haven't considered: for DMs, we all need to look in the mirror a bit if someone is cheating. Perhaps you are over-using the "Rule Zero" or fudging too many dice rolls yourself. So much so that the players feel they are in a no-win situation and are just throwing things out there so they can play the "hero" they wanted to play when they sat down at the table. Just a thought. As for why people are so non-confrontational - for me, it's a game. I'm there to have fun and getting in someone's face isn't my idea of fun. Ive gotten in people's faces to stop personal attacks and thew like that were ruining the game. But for "sneaky" people it some times requires a sideways approach.  I'm in my mid-30s and on the rare occassion I see someone in my age group at a table consistently cheating at DnD, I find it more than a bit pathetic. It just tells me there's got to be something else wrong with that individual and whatever I say has about zero chances of correcting their behavior.  Plus, if you just immediately bust off calling people out and you come to find you can't really prove it, it just alienates people (including those that aren't cheating...I almost did that with my last group) So there may be some sneakiness required to sort of corner the cheater and expose them to the group. People my age that are cooking dice rolls generally have a pretty good scam going cause they've been doing it for a while and are  sneaky enough about it that it may not be common knowledge at the table.</blockquote>

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