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<blockquote data-quote="Dlsharrock" data-source="post: 4266170" data-attributes="member: 55833"><p>Kook- your measured words are welcome, of course, and as always. </p><p></p><p>I have only respect for all players, and began all my potentially controversial OOC messages with 'with due respect' to reflect this and *hopefully* convey a friendly, if discursive tone. It is hard to put tone across in text, and even harder to address difficult issues without instigating an argument. To further embellish, and eradicate any misunderstanding of tone, I posted my previous message as a request that Dire explain *how* I have misconstrued his message if this is the case. I had no underlying intentions or any reason to imply insulting behaviour.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I gave very careful consideration to all my wording, and especially more so after I realised Dire was misinterpreting my messages as insults in previous parts of this OOC thread.</p><p></p><p>I am sorry if this is spoiling your enjoyment of the game. It is probably no surprise to you that this is also spoiling my own enjoyment. All I really want to do is play the game.</p><p></p><p>But as Keeper/GM I feel it *is* my responsibility to enact my role if I feel the comfort of players in my game is being compromised - not a stance taken by all Keepers, but one I have always maintained both in forums and tabletop games. That comfort may be compromised temporarily by discourse like this, but in the long run players will feel more comfortable if they know the rules of play are being upheld.</p><p></p><p>So I *will* speak out against open aggression, as I have done. If the aggression is centred on me, I will speak out not just for my sake but to clarify that it's not acceptable in my game, so players in my game can feel comfortable that they will not face such aggression themselves. This was primarily my reason for the first instant Dire and I 'had words'.</p><p></p><p>This second instant I felt again that I needed to defend the rights of players. Had Lucean directed exactly the same message against Dire, I would have posted exactly the same reaction. Bottom line. </p><p></p><p>So, going back and reviewing my messages, and those of Dire lemming, I feel there are three possible reasons why we've reached the point we've reached. 1) I'm a very softly spoken and, IMownO, gentle person. I am not surrounded by aggression, nor do I encounter it very often, so I'm not used to it. On forums and in games I actively avoid it. So perhaps Dire's way of approaching things jars with me and my first reaction is to misinterpret and over-react. I'm willing to step out of my subjectivity for a moment and accept that this may be the case. 2) I was fully justified in my reaction and the reason Dire and I have had cause to discuss difficulties on two occassions is that Dire is deliberately overstepping the mark then refusing to accept that he has done, moreover he then continues to refute any wrongdoing by closing down debate with flames 3) I have a grudge against Dire Lemming and wish to use the game to assassinate his character at every opportunity.</p><p></p><p>Realistically, one seems most likely to me. In which case I am willing to accept that I may have misinterpreted Dire's intentions, and apologise if my own reaction was misconstrued as some attempt to make out that Dire was a 'liar' or a 'bad player'. At this point, provided Dire agrees, a digital hand shake and an 'agree to disagree' is probably in order.</p><p></p><p>However, right at this very instant, the ball is in Dire's court. His previous post is the second time since this game began and only the third time in my entire 20 year span of gameplay, that I have met with open hostility from a player, and I don't like it. As far as I am concerned, I am currently considering asking Dire to leave the game, though I reserve my decision until I hear what Dire has to say pertaining to the previous paragraph.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dlsharrock, post: 4266170, member: 55833"] Kook- your measured words are welcome, of course, and as always. I have only respect for all players, and began all my potentially controversial OOC messages with 'with due respect' to reflect this and *hopefully* convey a friendly, if discursive tone. It is hard to put tone across in text, and even harder to address difficult issues without instigating an argument. To further embellish, and eradicate any misunderstanding of tone, I posted my previous message as a request that Dire explain *how* I have misconstrued his message if this is the case. I had no underlying intentions or any reason to imply insulting behaviour. Personally, I gave very careful consideration to all my wording, and especially more so after I realised Dire was misinterpreting my messages as insults in previous parts of this OOC thread. I am sorry if this is spoiling your enjoyment of the game. It is probably no surprise to you that this is also spoiling my own enjoyment. All I really want to do is play the game. But as Keeper/GM I feel it *is* my responsibility to enact my role if I feel the comfort of players in my game is being compromised - not a stance taken by all Keepers, but one I have always maintained both in forums and tabletop games. That comfort may be compromised temporarily by discourse like this, but in the long run players will feel more comfortable if they know the rules of play are being upheld. So I *will* speak out against open aggression, as I have done. If the aggression is centred on me, I will speak out not just for my sake but to clarify that it's not acceptable in my game, so players in my game can feel comfortable that they will not face such aggression themselves. This was primarily my reason for the first instant Dire and I 'had words'. This second instant I felt again that I needed to defend the rights of players. Had Lucean directed exactly the same message against Dire, I would have posted exactly the same reaction. Bottom line. So, going back and reviewing my messages, and those of Dire lemming, I feel there are three possible reasons why we've reached the point we've reached. 1) I'm a very softly spoken and, IMownO, gentle person. I am not surrounded by aggression, nor do I encounter it very often, so I'm not used to it. On forums and in games I actively avoid it. So perhaps Dire's way of approaching things jars with me and my first reaction is to misinterpret and over-react. I'm willing to step out of my subjectivity for a moment and accept that this may be the case. 2) I was fully justified in my reaction and the reason Dire and I have had cause to discuss difficulties on two occassions is that Dire is deliberately overstepping the mark then refusing to accept that he has done, moreover he then continues to refute any wrongdoing by closing down debate with flames 3) I have a grudge against Dire Lemming and wish to use the game to assassinate his character at every opportunity. Realistically, one seems most likely to me. In which case I am willing to accept that I may have misinterpreted Dire's intentions, and apologise if my own reaction was misconstrued as some attempt to make out that Dire was a 'liar' or a 'bad player'. At this point, provided Dire agrees, a digital hand shake and an 'agree to disagree' is probably in order. However, right at this very instant, the ball is in Dire's court. His previous post is the second time since this game began and only the third time in my entire 20 year span of gameplay, that I have met with open hostility from a player, and I don't like it. As far as I am concerned, I am currently considering asking Dire to leave the game, though I reserve my decision until I hear what Dire has to say pertaining to the previous paragraph. [/QUOTE]
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