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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5823928" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Fffff. You've got both Twin Strike and an At Will Interrupt Attack in there. Twin Strike (well, Double Strike) on its own is enough to put any such class right at the top of the striker heap (challenged only by the Ranger) <em>with no other striker class features</em>. Riposte Strike pushes your long term DPR ahead of the ranger. Both these at wills need to die. Also you've screwed up your combat challenge - your fencer needs to be making melee basic attacks with dexterity.</p><p></p><p>Two Blade Style is IMO silly. Wielding two rapiers or smallswords just wouldn't work well and wasn't what fencers did. What I want to see the default fencer offhand weapon being is one of the historical ones. Main Gauche (or just dagger), buckler, cloak, mail palmed glove.</p><p></p><p>And I think you're seriously overthinking and are going for the wrong basic class here. The fencer isn't a version of the classic strength fighter, he's a version of the classic <em>rogue</em> that loses sneak attack and gains Defender Aura (and some sort of mark punishment).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5823928, member: 87792"] Fffff. You've got both Twin Strike and an At Will Interrupt Attack in there. Twin Strike (well, Double Strike) on its own is enough to put any such class right at the top of the striker heap (challenged only by the Ranger) [I]with no other striker class features[/I]. Riposte Strike pushes your long term DPR ahead of the ranger. Both these at wills need to die. Also you've screwed up your combat challenge - your fencer needs to be making melee basic attacks with dexterity. Two Blade Style is IMO silly. Wielding two rapiers or smallswords just wouldn't work well and wasn't what fencers did. What I want to see the default fencer offhand weapon being is one of the historical ones. Main Gauche (or just dagger), buckler, cloak, mail palmed glove. And I think you're seriously overthinking and are going for the wrong basic class here. The fencer isn't a version of the classic strength fighter, he's a version of the classic [I]rogue[/I] that loses sneak attack and gains Defender Aura (and some sort of mark punishment). [/QUOTE]
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