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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tuft" data-source="post: 5204765" data-attributes="member: 60045">Oh, it does not stop at one condition. Take the bard at-will Vicious Mockery, which lowers the target's to-hit. It has both the keywords psychic and charm. That means that it is a prime candidate for both the Psychic Lock and the  Beguiling Enchantment feats. That means that it will have the following effects on a hit: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> "target takes a -2 penalty to attack rolls until the end of your next turn."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Any target you hit [...] takes a –2 penalty to its next attack roll."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"[...]that enemy takes a -2 penalty to attack rolls against you until the end of its next turn."</li> </ul>Three stacking to-hit penalties that also nicely stack with the to-hit penalty of the defender's mark. A real powerful combo (especially when combined with a mark), but with different end conditions on all three penalties. Now you can note that Irresistible Dance is an area attack that has both psychic and charm, which makes both those feats applicable also to that attack. Since (A) an opportunity attack discharges the Psychic Lock penalty, and (B) it may not be discharged in a monster's round if it is unable to attack, each monster hit by the Irresistible Dance must have its Psychic Lock penalty tracked individually. In fact, there are a good supply of Psychic/Charm powers in the Bard class, making those two feats a bargain. Satire of Prowess, for example, which has yet another way of messing up the target's to-hit. And, if we go back to the Vicious Mockery, it's stacking conditions do not need to stop at only three. Since it is an Arcane At-Will, the entire family of White Lotus feats can be applied to it: White Lotus Defense, White Lotus Enervation, White Lotus Evasion, etc. That's eight other riders you can put on the same power. Some last until the beginning of your next turn, some the end of your next, some are only in effect during the same turn... All in all, eleven effects from the same at-will, if you are willing to pay the feats - and willing to handle the bookkeeping. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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