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<blockquote data-quote="Mesh Hong" data-source="post: 5208612" data-attributes="member: 73463">I actually think a lot of the confusion and delay might be removed if all effects were just (save ends) at least then they would be easier to track.&nbsp;Instead of creatures marking they could inflict a flat -1 or -2 penalty to attack rolls (save ends).&nbsp;Player marks would probably have to stay the same, but at least they are easier to track (player, not DM based).&nbsp;From a monster point of view it is the PCs &quot;until the end of their next turn&quot; powers that are the most troubling (especially with creatures that act more than once in a round) so changing them to save ends would be good, or at least predictable.&nbsp;As for the niggling -1 and -2's the problem with those is that many of them seem to come from at will powers, but I don't think I would have a problem with them all becomming (save ends). Though it might cause problems with the creature being hit with the same power twice and the effect stacking when really it shouldn't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mesh Hong, post: 5208612, member: 73463"] I actually think a lot of the confusion and delay might be removed if all effects were just (save ends) at least then they would be easier to track. Instead of creatures marking they could inflict a flat -1 or -2 penalty to attack rolls (save ends). Player marks would probably have to stay the same, but at least they are easier to track (player, not DM based). From a monster point of view it is the PCs "until the end of their next turn" powers that are the most troubling (especially with creatures that act more than once in a round) so changing them to save ends would be good, or at least predictable. As for the niggling -1 and -2's the problem with those is that many of them seem to come from at will powers, but I don't think I would have a problem with them all becomming (save ends). Though it might cause problems with the creature being hit with the same power twice and the effect stacking when really it shouldn't. [/QUOTE]

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