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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 9573730" data-attributes="member: 23484"><p>To me, this feels disingenuous. </p><p></p><p>MotM gave a number of species (not just goblinoids) "Fey Ancestry" which was an advantage against saves vs. Charm. In most games, that comes into play more often than creature type -- whether you are vulnerable to hold person or not. But they've gone "all the way" with goblinoids, but (apparently) not with all the fey-ancestry species.</p><p></p><p>And, in MotM, goblinoids were still humanoids and were not fey.</p><p></p><p>At the same time, there were playable species that were fey: Centaur, Satyr, Fairy, etc. Claiming that the game had already migrated to goblins=fey simply does not seem true, and it seems like they are trying to ret-con something they clearly hadn't done beforem in order to justify it now. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This seems self-evidently true, and it is not the first time designers have imposed top-down decisions about species. </p><p></p><p>I can understand why the promotional videos are incentivized not to present it this way, and (not yet having seen the new MM) I haven't yet formed an opinion of the change. But that it is a top-down imposition (what I take to be the main point of the OP) seems absolutely correct.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kobold Stew, post: 9573730, member: 23484"] To me, this feels disingenuous. MotM gave a number of species (not just goblinoids) "Fey Ancestry" which was an advantage against saves vs. Charm. In most games, that comes into play more often than creature type -- whether you are vulnerable to hold person or not. But they've gone "all the way" with goblinoids, but (apparently) not with all the fey-ancestry species. And, in MotM, goblinoids were still humanoids and were not fey. At the same time, there were playable species that were fey: Centaur, Satyr, Fairy, etc. Claiming that the game had already migrated to goblins=fey simply does not seem true, and it seems like they are trying to ret-con something they clearly hadn't done beforem in order to justify it now. This seems self-evidently true, and it is not the first time designers have imposed top-down decisions about species. I can understand why the promotional videos are incentivized not to present it this way, and (not yet having seen the new MM) I haven't yet formed an opinion of the change. But that it is a top-down imposition (what I take to be the main point of the OP) seems absolutely correct. [/QUOTE]
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