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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Khur" data-source="post: 270470" data-attributes="member: 5583">Spirited Spirits...The blanket statement requiring the rage seems to limit the powers severely, unless I misunderstood the statement. Regardless of power-level, you can only use the powers while raging. That’s all. I liked the ideas and much of your execution. Perhaps I’m just too thick-skulled! It’s possible.The power begins: “When a spirit of the beast rages, he gains the ability to shape shift into the form of his animal totem.” That suggested to me that it was only useable in rage. I don’t blame you for the blanket note, but I still think that some of these powers should be usable outside of rage … like Spirit Walk.I’m not trying to invalidate your logic, which is certainly appropriate to the D&D cosmology, but most of the reading I’ve don didn’t show that “primitive” or “nature-based” societies had complex concepts of elementalism. I’d be glad to see your references. The concept of five elements comes largely from scientific mysticism of somewhat evolved societies according to my studies (Kabbalah, Vedic culture (late I think), Egyptian Mystery Systems, Hermetic Orders, etc.).My list (standing on the shoulders of your work, of course) slightly less powerful than a druid:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Level I – Normal size for Wild Shape</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Level II – Hybrid Form</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Level III – Large-sized animal</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Level IV – Large Hybrid (This requires some definition, but that’s cool and eliminates the Huge man-bear problem, but gives you the ability to become a grizzly-sized man-bear – like Beorn!)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Level V – Dire Animal (size is not a factor for the term dire)</li> </ul>Hybrid forms aren’t cheesy, most people seem to like them. The problems are making them seem realistic within the fantasy cosmology in which they exist and coming up with stats that reflect the nature of the form.You succeeded and I really like your quests, if I didn’t make that clear. Another solution is that the shaman and the aspirant himself cannot use the aid of other spirits (magic or magic items). Lowering the Will save seems appropriate. You have to remember that this quest reads like, “You fail, you lose your character barring hefty juju to bring him back from 2 Int or permanent animal form.”I like the concept and the power and you understand my worst-case-scenario analysis. Your solutions to the problem satisfy my aching DM head and save me from munchkinism at its worst. (BTW munchkins can be fun, I’m not coming down on the little sweethearts.)The problem is that you state the ability is usable on during rage (in your blanket statement) and nobody does recon while raging. Secondly, being able to use a single spell as a spell-like ability is fine for a noncaster – a precedent set by WotC. And just to pick nits, anyone who takes a spellcasting class level is a true caster. I agree, I don’t know what I was thinking … I reread the power and it seems legit and tastily deadly!Nice work. I know making these classes work is difficult. I’m doing an awful lot of editing for no pay!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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