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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6678187" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>This is a great topic/question...and like always with D&D I don't think there's a set answer but a shifting/mutable line that differs from table-to-table, playstyles and other preferences.</p><p></p><p>It is obvious to me that a class called "Dwarven Defender" would be for dwarf's only...but then here comes the munchin/powergamer saying "HEY! Why can't I multi-class into that! I want those powers too! I am entitled! You're not being fair to me/my preferred playstyle/whine/whine/whine..."</p><p></p><p>So, let's just say, outright, "Dwarf's only!" So there's a prereq. Honestly, I just added the lawful since that's what the SRD said, but honestly, I see little reason to include an alignment restriction...here.</p><p></p><p>But I see little to no problem, for highly specialized/niche archetypes that are popular and/or setting relevant that would/could have racial, alignment, or other restrictions. Dwarven Defenders...Warrior Women [another I'm writing up] for female only characters...my homebrewed "Sentinel" -for that BECM-feeling Fighter/Mage elf without needing to use multiclassing...alternately could be used as a swordmage or arcane archer for elves (maybe permit half-elves as well) only. I could see, for setting flavor specifics or games in where alignment still matters (like mine own <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ), stating a cavalier must be Lawful.</p><p></p><p>Even setting-specific things. For example, an artificer, as far as I am concerned, is an Eberron class. Period. I do not play in Eberron. You will never be permitted to play an artificer in a game I run/in my setting. No exceptions. No questions.</p><p></p><p>But I could easily write up an artifier class or subclass of my own...with the "Prereq: For use in the Eberron setting only." Solamic Knights and Wizards of High Sorcery that are "For use in the Draognlance setting only." etc... </p><p></p><p>So they can all still be Fighter or Wizard or whatever subclasses, respectively. But are only relevant for those settings/races/alignments specified.</p><p></p><p>Of course, as I said, this makes them all much more niche and story-flavor-specific than existing Fighter subclasses...and moreso than my currently posted cavalier, for example, is meant to be. Portraying, really, only a single (or very narrow) character concept.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6678187, member: 92511"] This is a great topic/question...and like always with D&D I don't think there's a set answer but a shifting/mutable line that differs from table-to-table, playstyles and other preferences. It is obvious to me that a class called "Dwarven Defender" would be for dwarf's only...but then here comes the munchin/powergamer saying "HEY! Why can't I multi-class into that! I want those powers too! I am entitled! You're not being fair to me/my preferred playstyle/whine/whine/whine..." So, let's just say, outright, "Dwarf's only!" So there's a prereq. Honestly, I just added the lawful since that's what the SRD said, but honestly, I see little reason to include an alignment restriction...here. But I see little to no problem, for highly specialized/niche archetypes that are popular and/or setting relevant that would/could have racial, alignment, or other restrictions. Dwarven Defenders...Warrior Women [another I'm writing up] for female only characters...my homebrewed "Sentinel" -for that BECM-feeling Fighter/Mage elf without needing to use multiclassing...alternately could be used as a swordmage or arcane archer for elves (maybe permit half-elves as well) only. I could see, for setting flavor specifics or games in where alignment still matters (like mine own ;) ), stating a cavalier must be Lawful. Even setting-specific things. For example, an artificer, as far as I am concerned, is an Eberron class. Period. I do not play in Eberron. You will never be permitted to play an artificer in a game I run/in my setting. No exceptions. No questions. But I could easily write up an artifier class or subclass of my own...with the "Prereq: For use in the Eberron setting only." Solamic Knights and Wizards of High Sorcery that are "For use in the Draognlance setting only." etc... So they can all still be Fighter or Wizard or whatever subclasses, respectively. But are only relevant for those settings/races/alignments specified. Of course, as I said, this makes them all much more niche and story-flavor-specific than existing Fighter subclasses...and moreso than my currently posted cavalier, for example, is meant to be. Portraying, really, only a single (or very narrow) character concept. [/QUOTE]
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