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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mhacdebhandia" data-source="post: 3563424" data-attributes="member: 18832">They're not demons in the sense that tanar'ri are demons, no. But on the other hand, they are native to the outer planes - that's why they gain the extraplanar subtype on the Material Plane. Given that they come from a place which is wholly unlike the normal world, why must they have an ecology to speak of, anyway? I'll point out that they are described as "resembl(ing) beings found on the Material Plane".Why must a fiendish creature that is based upon a horse have the same lifecycle, ecology, et cetera as a normal horse? I don't see any reason in the rules to assume they do. Perhaps fiendish horses periodically spawn from the poisonous foam of Lower Planar oceans, vomited upon the bleak shores of the Abyss or another plane.As for their names, come on. Why conclude that spellcasters in any given D&D setting don't have a name for the fiendish creatures they summon that resemble wolves, just because one isn't given in the text of the spell?I just don't see any reason to necessarily conclude that a creature which is mechanically created by applying a "fiendish creature" template to another creature must represent a fiendish analogue of that creature, including fiendish analogues for its society, culture, ecology, and whatever else.I think they're actually more interesting and useful if you don't make that assumption, and it certainly prevents the cognitive dissonance you're experiencing right now as a result of your assumption that they must be wolves or goblins or dragons that just happen to live on Carceri.</blockquote>

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