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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 2611114" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p>Perhaps, though the real world demonology didn't supply much more than names for many of the early 1e archfiends. Demogorgon with his two babboon heads and tentacles really has little to do with Demo Gorgos as held in Gnostic belief, or the corruption of the term later to become a demon. It didn't seen to truly filter down into the material, and the flavor material of the time wasn't as expansive as the later 2e material (though as you said the 2e material had to divorce itself from 'real world' demons and devils to some extent).</p><p></p><p>While the original, pre-PS idea to drop demon and devil as terms wasn't anything great at all, they really did some awesome work to expand and create new material beyond a reliance on the tenuous real world references. Honestly, we're probably better off for the 1e material from before combined with the subsequent material that divorced itself from what might have been too tempting a crutch to rely on rather than going wholly original. Pros and Cons of both, but we've got both the 1e stuff and the Planescape material and what it added to the 1e stuff directly.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Makes me feel much better. Thank you. Plus the Fraz-Urblu article in Dragon, using material right from 'Faces of Evil' was nifty too. <img src="http://arcanofox.foxpaws.net/shemmysmile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 2611114, member: 11697"] Perhaps, though the real world demonology didn't supply much more than names for many of the early 1e archfiends. Demogorgon with his two babboon heads and tentacles really has little to do with Demo Gorgos as held in Gnostic belief, or the corruption of the term later to become a demon. It didn't seen to truly filter down into the material, and the flavor material of the time wasn't as expansive as the later 2e material (though as you said the 2e material had to divorce itself from 'real world' demons and devils to some extent). While the original, pre-PS idea to drop demon and devil as terms wasn't anything great at all, they really did some awesome work to expand and create new material beyond a reliance on the tenuous real world references. Honestly, we're probably better off for the 1e material from before combined with the subsequent material that divorced itself from what might have been too tempting a crutch to rely on rather than going wholly original. Pros and Cons of both, but we've got both the 1e stuff and the Planescape material and what it added to the 1e stuff directly. Makes me feel much better. Thank you. Plus the Fraz-Urblu article in Dragon, using material right from 'Faces of Evil' was nifty too. [IMG]http://arcanofox.foxpaws.net/shemmysmile.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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