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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 2611166" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>Gah, if I had known my mentioning Erik's opinion on Pale Night would lead to such a controversy...well, I probably would have done it anyway. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>One thing I want to mention is that people keep talking about how 2E didn't include the words "demon" or "devil" at the time...what they fail to mention is that <em>Planescape</em> saw the return of those terms. A reading of <em>Tales from the Infinite Staircase</em> or <em>Faces of Evil: the Fiends</em> shows that the setting wasn't afraid to toss those terms around. Give credit where credit is due, people.</p><p></p><p>Erik, I don't know about other people, but for me, the issue wasn't that you had an opinion...it was the idea that because of your opinion, some aspects of what some of us want to see are being supressed. That is, if I were to send in a Demonomicon article on Pale Night, and someone else sent one in on Kostchtchie, that you'd take the latter over the former ten times out of ten, due to personal preference alone. That's the sort of sentiment I was grumbling over...which doesn't mean it's necessarily true.</p><p></p><p>That and I honestly do think Pale Night is a cool concept (from what we've seen of her).</p><p></p><p>Also, in regards to Lynkhab...I'd like to point out that we now have three female Demon Lords of sex (Shami-Amourae, from <em>Dungeon</em> #5, "The Stolen Power"; Lynkhab, from <em>Faces of Evil: the Fiends</em>; and Malcanthet, mentioned in <em>Dungeon</em> #112 "Maure Castle" and #124 "Chambers of Antiquities"). It's high time we got them together and had them throw down (preferably in jello). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 2611166, member: 8461"] Gah, if I had known my mentioning Erik's opinion on Pale Night would lead to such a controversy...well, I probably would have done it anyway. ;) One thing I want to mention is that people keep talking about how 2E didn't include the words "demon" or "devil" at the time...what they fail to mention is that [I]Planescape[/I] saw the return of those terms. A reading of [I]Tales from the Infinite Staircase[/I] or [I]Faces of Evil: the Fiends[/I] shows that the setting wasn't afraid to toss those terms around. Give credit where credit is due, people. Erik, I don't know about other people, but for me, the issue wasn't that you had an opinion...it was the idea that because of your opinion, some aspects of what some of us want to see are being supressed. That is, if I were to send in a Demonomicon article on Pale Night, and someone else sent one in on Kostchtchie, that you'd take the latter over the former ten times out of ten, due to personal preference alone. That's the sort of sentiment I was grumbling over...which doesn't mean it's necessarily true. That and I honestly do think Pale Night is a cool concept (from what we've seen of her). Also, in regards to Lynkhab...I'd like to point out that we now have three female Demon Lords of sex (Shami-Amourae, from [I]Dungeon[/I] #5, "The Stolen Power"; Lynkhab, from [I]Faces of Evil: the Fiends[/I]; and Malcanthet, mentioned in [I]Dungeon[/I] #112 "Maure Castle" and #124 "Chambers of Antiquities"). It's high time we got them together and had them throw down (preferably in jello). :D [/QUOTE]
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