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<blockquote data-quote="Sundragon2012" data-source="post: 2611592" data-attributes="member: 7624"><p>I am certainly interested in this book and though I think that Planescape had some good qualities I really saw it as the late TSR's attempt to pounce upon the the then popularity of the Shadowrun/Cyberpunk jaded attitude that was popular at its inception. </p><p></p><p>I think that the vastness of the setting was groundbreaking, I thought that gods being real gods who couldn't be killed, I thought that a City of Doors was great.</p><p></p><p>I loathed that they took that "cant" and wrote even fiends into speaking in what should merely have been the Sigillian version of Cockney english. Great for atmosphere in Sigil but when it spread to the planes I thought it very stupid indeed.</p><p></p><p>Please EriK and James avoid like the plague the "fiends in love" thing that some folks seem to think sensible. Make them the incarnations of absolute wickedness, depravity and evil and not just a planer race with hopes, dreams, loves and regrets.....bleech!!! Inscrutable, absolute, vicious, chaotic, souless horrors bent on evil and evil alone ok Erik and James.....pleeeeeaaasssee????</p><p></p><p>Fiends are evil...more evil by nature than the worst of humanity and they don't have loving relationships. Now that is utterly divorced from our Western mythology regarding such things. </p><p></p><p>And please, please no demon princes named Alvarez, I am sorry but names matter and I have a hard time taking seriously a demon prince with a name so like a real Latino/Mexican name. Its like giving an arch devil a strongly ethnic name like Czerniakowski (Polish)....it just seems silly.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Chris</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sundragon2012, post: 2611592, member: 7624"] I am certainly interested in this book and though I think that Planescape had some good qualities I really saw it as the late TSR's attempt to pounce upon the the then popularity of the Shadowrun/Cyberpunk jaded attitude that was popular at its inception. I think that the vastness of the setting was groundbreaking, I thought that gods being real gods who couldn't be killed, I thought that a City of Doors was great. I loathed that they took that "cant" and wrote even fiends into speaking in what should merely have been the Sigillian version of Cockney english. Great for atmosphere in Sigil but when it spread to the planes I thought it very stupid indeed. Please EriK and James avoid like the plague the "fiends in love" thing that some folks seem to think sensible. Make them the incarnations of absolute wickedness, depravity and evil and not just a planer race with hopes, dreams, loves and regrets.....bleech!!! Inscrutable, absolute, vicious, chaotic, souless horrors bent on evil and evil alone ok Erik and James.....pleeeeeaaasssee???? Fiends are evil...more evil by nature than the worst of humanity and they don't have loving relationships. Now that is utterly divorced from our Western mythology regarding such things. And please, please no demon princes named Alvarez, I am sorry but names matter and I have a hard time taking seriously a demon prince with a name so like a real Latino/Mexican name. Its like giving an arch devil a strongly ethnic name like Czerniakowski (Polish)....it just seems silly. Chris [/QUOTE]
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