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<blockquote data-quote="Grover Cleaveland" data-source="post: 2615286" data-attributes="member: 34932"><p>Actually, this started with Fritz Lieber's stories of Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser, and became part of the Nehwon setting that TSR made some supplements for and included in both Deities & Demigods and Legends & Lore.</p><p></p><p>Forgotten Realms and Planescape got the idea from there.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not so! Remember that in Planescape, belief is <em>power</em>. If enough people believe something is true, it <em>becomes</em> true.</p><p></p><p>If the peoples of Krynn believe the gods created their world, <em>that's exactly what happened.</em> There's no "real" story of what happened - if there ever was another history, it's buried now beneath consensual reality, assuming it ever existed to begin with. And that history was just as much a construct of belief as the current one.</p><p></p><p>Also, don't ever forget that mortals aren't the only ones who believe things. The gods of Krynn could as easily have been created by the dreams and nightmares of earlier, transcendent beings of pure thought, long before any mortals were born. They could have even believed <em>themselves</em> into being, if there was no one else around to do it for them. Or they could have simply come from an earlier world - Krynn was created a mere 5000 or so years ago! </p><p></p><p>In short, assuming that the gods are created by belief doesn't remotely negate the creation myths of the various worlds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grover Cleaveland, post: 2615286, member: 34932"] Actually, this started with Fritz Lieber's stories of Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser, and became part of the Nehwon setting that TSR made some supplements for and included in both Deities & Demigods and Legends & Lore. Forgotten Realms and Planescape got the idea from there. Not so! Remember that in Planescape, belief is [i]power[/i]. If enough people believe something is true, it [i]becomes[/i] true. If the peoples of Krynn believe the gods created their world, [i]that's exactly what happened.[/i] There's no "real" story of what happened - if there ever was another history, it's buried now beneath consensual reality, assuming it ever existed to begin with. And that history was just as much a construct of belief as the current one. Also, don't ever forget that mortals aren't the only ones who believe things. The gods of Krynn could as easily have been created by the dreams and nightmares of earlier, transcendent beings of pure thought, long before any mortals were born. They could have even believed [i]themselves[/i] into being, if there was no one else around to do it for them. Or they could have simply come from an earlier world - Krynn was created a mere 5000 or so years ago! In short, assuming that the gods are created by belief doesn't remotely negate the creation myths of the various worlds. [/QUOTE]
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