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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 2657614" data-attributes="member: 326">Hiya mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Thats why I have you to keep me right Shemmy! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />See below.I'm happy to accept the "spawned from the raw substance of the planes idea" since you could envision that some portion of the spirits destroyed on their native planes are absorbed by the plane itself. For demons this could mean that the death of Orcus on his home plane meant the power of Orcus was subsumed in part by the plane and in part by his destroyer (Highlander style). Using some sort of powerful ritual Quah-Nomog was able to retrieve Orcus spirit from oblivion and Orcus brought back the secret of unmaking.Interesting point you noted about the eating of larvae. I'm of the personal opinion that the eating/destruction of other spirits is how Outsiders 'grow' in power. As such it seems prudent to accept that process 'reverse engineered' in that demons (for instance) could spawn other demons by splintering some of their quintessence (spirit power).But I don't see this as a case of two Babau creating a third as much as I see a sundered Babau being magically divorced into two entities, each weaker than the original creature.Nonsense. Lets put this into perspective, the Abyss probably outnumbers the Hells about 74:1. Not 10,000,000:1. Any ideas to the contrary are ludicrous.If the demons could breed with each other they would easily overwhelm every other plane (that didn't instigate a breeding program) within 50 years through sheer weight of numbers. Thats why the idea of outsiders able to breed with one another is silly.</blockquote>

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