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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 2659605" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey GC! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Two points of note. Firstly its illogical. Secondly it adheres to the 2nd Edition (for all intents and puposes statless) approach of virtually infinite power deities, and is a wholly useless approach for epic games, which, lets face it, are the only games that matter for the puposes of statting such beings.I agree with you on that. Although personally I would limit the size of such realms to the number of (kosmically linked) planets that such beings are known to.So, for instance, Lolth is known on a about eight worlds according to Q1: Queen of the Demonweb Pits, to which we can add Oerth and Toril. So Lolths layers would perhaps cover as much area as ten planets.I would certainly agree with you that such fundamental forces are flexible in the outer planes but I think the main crux of our differences, scale, still applies......glad to hear you say it.For all intents and purposes then theres no benefit to having an infinite acre chunk of real estate in the planes beyond simply having a realm a few thousand miles in diameter. Exactly! Yes but haven't you just determined above that infinite real estate is irrelevant in the planes.Frankly this seems to solidify the kosmically localised approach as being the best solution. I totally agree, such an endeavour would be pointless.Absolutely. Species in the real world grow old and die. Outsiders don't. Species in the real world need to grow to adulthood before they can mate. Outsiders don't. The Demon Princes realms are stable enough for them to begin breeding programs. All a demon prince needs to do is remove 2 demons from its retinue and have them quarantined for 50 years and hey presto you have ourself a billion strong army in 50 years.Numbers are important. Superior equipment, tactics and training only get you so far against weight of numbers (The Russian Front in the 2nd World War would be a good example of that in practice).I would go along with this idea, yes. In fact its something I already touch on in the Immortals Handbook Bestiary and how numerology is very important to the planes.The key factor is that their resources are not infinite, but in fact limited.</blockquote>

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