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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 2668603" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey GC! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I agree with this, what I disagree with is that their realms are literally infinite. Even if they were linked to the entire layer it would take infinite intelligence to be able to process the infinite occurances taking place within an infinite space.We know that divine realms are not infinite by any means (though we both agree they should be larger than they are in D&Dg).Our discussion indirectly applies to all planar rulers, not just demons.Your point makes little sense anyway. Mephistopheles doesn't control the actions of everyone in his layer either, but he commands them. Not quite. There is nothing beyond the known parameters of the kosmically localised area. Imagine being on the shore and looking out to the sea, you can still see the horizon but you cannot reach it. As soon as #B sets foot on the layer, #A knows about it.  I don't see how infinity is a sensible number....Krust-verse...I like the sound of that though. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Obviously the more powerful rulers hold sway over multiple layers with their main seat of power at the centre.Trying to keep a portal open while you ferry in your entire army is ludicrous. For starters the enemy will be able to intercept in far larger numbers. It will take ages for you to get substantial forces through the gate. The enemy will have plenty of time to disrupt/dispel the gate. I thought it illustrated the point quite well. To reiterate, the primary layer(s) of the greatest demon monarchs/princes will almost certainly never be threatened by enemy armies EXACTLY LIKE the second world war.  Ruling an infinite layer means they have infinite resources and infinite power.Its the closest approximation we know.Unless the superiors, superiors are also there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Thats exactly the point though - its a matter of frequency. Some planes are so violent that demons are few and far between if any exist there at all, but demons are not going to settle in such areas. They may be chaotic evil, but they are not, as a rule, stupid. Or, to use some of your own vernacular perhaps these great breeding pools are cess pits of debauchery and lust, fueling the demons primitive, carnal urges. However the whole law/chaos thing is irrelevant here with regards what we are discussing. The demon princes do not have infinte power, they do not have infinite resources, therefore even if their layers are infinite they can neither understand everything within them (because they do not have infinite intelligence), nor do their forces occupy anything more than a finite area.Absolutely.If one dies then thats okay, as long as there is no net gain. I'm happy enough with that. I keep telling you my problem is not with the breeding per se, its in representing infinity.</blockquote>

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