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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 2702033" data-attributes="member: 11697">So. Completely. Wrong.The whole Nerull-Infestix thing is only from Gygax's Gord novels as far as I know, which makes it irrelevant here. If that was ever mentioned in any 1st ed source that was a part of DnD proper, and I don't believe it was, it has since been utterly rewritten in 2e and 3e. Apomps is completely divorced from the yugoloth heirarchy, he hates them and would love to destroy them out of spite at his fellow Baernaloths. Mydianchlarus and the General of Gehenna aren't beholden to any deity; yugoloths in general despise deities as the bastard spawn of mortal beliefs and devotions, though the 'loths themselves have a nearly religious fanaticism for the abstract concept of evil which they themselves are manifestations of.And what the heck is this about Asmodeus only really controlling 3 layers of Baator? I'm sorry, but you're completely wrong on that. He controls the 9th, controls the rank and file Baatezu by way of the Dark 8, and while the other Lords of the 9 each control their own layers of the plane, Asmodeus can and does order them around when push comes to shove, though each of them would of course ultimately prefer to usurp his throne.Well, Levistus is winning a war versus Set (and Sekolah) to the point that Set's layer in Stygia has actually shrunk in size by a very slight amount. Inside Set's domain perhaps Levistus wouldn't want to be first in line, but on Stygia at large we can see who is winning at the moment. No, no it's not. I don't see how you can infer that 'few' means 'none'. If they had wanted to mean none, they would have said none. You're ultimately changing the meaning of the word otherwise. They didn't list all the powers in the Abyss in the list you're talking about, just ones they felt were important. It wasn't all inclusive, so whichever greater deities are in the Abyss, they simply weren't noted in that small list, but they very clearly are in fact there from what was mentioned in the text. Few =! none.Yes it would actually. We know intellectually that people can't survive inside active volcanos so people would look at you funny for using that sentence as an example, but you would in fact be implying that some small number of people do in fact live in them. That's what the word 'few' means. Quite a few did as I recall. I'll have to look them up later, but they're there. 'On Hallowed Ground' will have them listed out.</blockquote>

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