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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 2710549" data-attributes="member: 11697">We weren't even talking about deities, we were talking about the organization of the outsider races that matched each alignment. Where'd that comment come from?If we're using the Great Wheel, then there are going to be a massive amount of deities out there on the planes, but only a small fraction of them will have a divine presence upon any given prime material world, and thus they won't have any impact unless you're out on the planes. So ignoring that the deity comment in that quote above seems to have come out of thin air and has nothing to do with what we were talking about, I don't see it as an issue really. Mydianchlarus has never had stats. He/She/It was a supremely powerful 'Ultroloth Prince', but at this point the process of becoming Oinoloth seems just as likely to have made him a unique entity just as much as Anthraxus was made more than the mundane yugoloth he was before his own transformation into his unique form.I can see that, and it's partially the way that I went with it. I've got a stat block for Methikus Sar Telmuril around here somewhere, though it only applies off of the lower planes.</blockquote>