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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GVDammerung" data-source="post: 2713578" data-attributes="member: 33060">This is not strictly true.  Asmodeus has no control over the form of the Hells (or any layer thereof ) in the manner of demon princes who can shape or control their layers.  The form of the Hells is beyond Asmodeus.  He did not create it.  He inherited it.  Asmodeus does not control the baatezu in any ultimate sense.  He did not create them.  His power over any individual is not omnipotent.  He cannot even predict or control his arch-devils.  There is no instance where Asmodeus has by will or his personal power alone commanded the Hells.  He is always seen politically manuvering.  He needs his lessers and he needs to pit them against each other to maintain his position.In terms of pure, absolute rulership, a demon prince rules his layer or layers in a way Asmodeus cannot begin to approach.This is not to say Asmodeues is not the most powerful individual devil, all things considered(although if memory serves various sources point out that Asmodeus is not physically the most powerful devil).  He does get to wear the crown, even if he is not an absolute monarch, and that counts for something.  Just not everything.Neither is this to say that Asmodeus could not stand toe-to-toe with a demon prince.Asmodeus is not in a class by himself but it is still a small class in which I would only allow Demogorgon and Orcus.Grazzt I do not see as in that category.  Three layers, yes.  That is, however, more of the same.  In my view, Asmodeus, Demogorgon and Orcus have transcended the usual shtick associated with their kind.  They are more of something very different and of a greater order of magnitude - world chaining, planeshaping and profigate proliferation.</blockquote>

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