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Message: <blockquote data-quote="morbiczer" data-source="post: 3192371" data-attributes="member: 15119">I haven't found any mention of the Ancient Baatorians (yet). Generaly there is no history section besides the creation myth I already mentioned, although there might be some mention of earlier times in the writeups of the individual layers, I haven't read them yet.  A city named Kintyre is mentioned which is buried deep in ice, but Mephistopheles has recently ordered to excavate it, since he believes that there are secrets there which would aid his research in hellfire. No mention of Ancient Baatorians though. Jangling Hiter is mentioned, but not the origin of the kytons. The myth at the beginning says that at least some of them are fallen angels (Asmodeus, Dispater, Mephitopheels, erinyes), where angels aren't necessarily good. The way I understand it, lemures are created from the tormented souls who come to Hell after their death, and if they are lucky, sooner or later they get promoted to more powerful status. So that's probably where most of the devils come from. Baalzebul is a former archon named Triel. "Asmodeus and most of the other archdevils came to Baator early in its history, when the lines between good and evil were first being drawn, but Baalzebul is a more recent arival". He is mentioned as the former ruler of the layer, replaced by Bel. In a sidebar it is written that "legend has it that the fireballs that detonate across Avernus in a seemingly random pattern are generated by Zariel, a trapped former archduke from whom Bel parasitically draws his power."  Can't find any.</blockquote>

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