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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 3192463" data-attributes="member: 11697">That's incredibly disappointing.Pretty much the same exact rumor that we've seen in the 3e MotP, 2e Guide to Hell, and not as much as we saw from Planescape. No mention of the Ancients? Man, that's a wasted opportunity.Meh. I take it there's also no mention of the maturing nupperibo/ancient baatorian locked away in the tower of Panos Qytel there in that city by its kyton ruler? If not, again a big disappointment.Color me uninspired. But at least it doesn't directly contradict material from other sources that we know aren't (entirely) diabolic myth. But the erinyes as fallen angels is just a lame 3.5 thing.That's a shame. They don't go into any further detail than the MotP or GtH did? Meh.And &quot;He&quot;? Zariel was female. Did they actually shift her gender around, or were you just using 'he' as a generic pronoun?...Perhaps I'm just spoiled by the likes of Fiendish Codex I or Faces of Evil. But from what you've said, the book really is underwhelming me. So many things that seem to just have been inexplicably not addressed despite being an undercurrent through most of the more detailed source material.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 3192463, member: 11697"] That's incredibly disappointing. Pretty much the same exact rumor that we've seen in the 3e MotP, 2e Guide to Hell, and not as much as we saw from Planescape. No mention of the Ancients? Man, that's a wasted opportunity. Meh. I take it there's also no mention of the maturing nupperibo/ancient baatorian locked away in the tower of Panos Qytel there in that city by its kyton ruler? If not, again a big disappointment. Color me uninspired. But at least it doesn't directly contradict material from other sources that we know aren't (entirely) diabolic myth. But the erinyes as fallen angels is just a lame 3.5 thing. That's a shame. They don't go into any further detail than the MotP or GtH did? Meh. And "He"? Zariel was female. Did they actually shift her gender around, or were you just using 'he' as a generic pronoun? ... Perhaps I'm just spoiled by the likes of [i]Fiendish Codex I[/i] or [i]Faces of Evil[/i]. But from what you've said, the book really is underwhelming me. So many things that seem to just have been inexplicably not addressed despite being an undercurrent through most of the more detailed source material. [/QUOTE]

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