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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Salthorae" data-source="post: 4937210" data-attributes="member: 1095">Off topic, but need to reply...Charisma has nothing to do with "hot" despite how most players I know interpret an 18 Charisma female NPC...Charisma is basically how easily you are able to force your self/ideas/personality on others around you in the world, and how much they pay attention/listen. The more Charismatic you are, the more people pay attention and listen to your ideas. It's only in today's america that charasmatic = good looking and only good looking. Donald Trump would not be considered by most to be "good looking" in the typical celebrity sense, but if stated would have a high Charisma score because he is powerful, successful, etc so people listen. I think D&D players tend to forget that Charisma is one of the "mental stats", not phsyical like Str, Dex, & Con... Dwarves have always been portrayed as "gruff", so the mechanic is to make them start off more poorly on all the social abilities with a -2 to Charisma, same can be said of 1/2 orcs. Illithids on the other hand are forceful, naturally powerful race whose demeanor and society is based on domination and enforcing their will on the world around them... therefore +2 to Cha.For Tieflings, they are stigmatized from an early age, so they can't as effectively learn the social skills necessary to interact normally, plus they physically carry fiendish traits which will scare most new people they meet... therefore minuses to Cha.</blockquote>

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