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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AZ_ST" data-source="post: 4758466" data-attributes="member: 75459">Impressions of Counter Collection comboI just received my 4E monster counters and battle box. Overall the product is good. The counters are not as thick as I had hoped (it was hard to tell exactly from the web photos) but are essentially two sheets of heavy paper sandwiching a chipboard middle. I haven't started punching out any of the counters yet, but I might be afraid of them peeling at some point. I'll update after I've started punching.  The art is very good, with each type/role of monster having slightly different art. The breakdown of monster type should provide all you will need for almost any encounter. I was afraid it might be too cartoony but it's restrained and effective. Like good comic art, it has enough detail to hold up on a large or huge sized counter, but not too dense for medium and small sizes.  A note on tiny sized creatures since it wasn't clear from the otherwise excellent summary earlier in the thread. They are printed four to a medium size counter in such a way they can be cut into four separate counters with "bloodied" border on the back. You'll need a sharp x-acto or other cutting tool and straight edge to do a neat job, they aren't die-cut. But there aren't very many either. The battlebox counters are the same as the monster set, and have counter for every possible Class/Race/Sex combination from the PHB. The art on the extra dungeon detail tiles is very good as well. Better than I had anticipated. The acetate spell templates look like a handy thing to have around. The round effect tokens are functional, though I think there might be too many flying elevation counters. Some more bloodied and additional tiles for +2, +5 etc for various effects might have been nice. The pads of character sheets and spell lists are nicely laid out and should be useful. Also of note, when I opened the shipping box, there were 4 additional player combat sheets for a total of 5 including the one in the battle box. Nice. Overall, for the price these are nice products. Go for the combo deal and you won't be able to field this many monsters or PCs for less. My only real nitpicks are the tile thickness and my own asthetic issues with small creatures on 1" tiles. I'm sure a whole new die for 5/8" or 3/4" counters is probably too much to ask. I should also note that I have decently sized collection of euro style board games so my expections of tile thickness and quality might be a bit skewed. But reasonable high quality printing is available though China as many recent board games can attest.  As for whether I'd like more dungeon dressings or something outdoors, I would like outdoor items only if the paragon and epic sets include wilderness dry erase maps. Otherwise, stick with more dungeon style. Or maybe some tavern/house/town type tiles?  Thanks for making the product available, I look forward to the next sets.</blockquote>

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