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<blockquote data-quote="Kinematics" data-source="post: 9131573" data-attributes="member: 6932123"><p>On the advantage question, comparing various scenarios. I'll use 3 attacks per round (level 11), since the Studies Attacks comparison will be at level 13. I'll also assume a loop of attacks against the same target, to figure out long-term averages. I'll consider a 60% hit rate and an 80% hit rate.</p><p></p><p>For damage purposes, I'll use a 1d10 weapon with 20 Str, for 10.5 base damage, and a 16 damage crit.</p><p></p><p>Baseline: No advantage on any attack. Average damage per attack will be 6.85 at 60%, or 8.95 at 80%. Damage per round: 20.55 - 26.85</p><p></p><p>Heroic Warrior: Advantage on one attack per round. Other attacks are the same as baseline. An average of 1 attack with advantage per round. Advantage damage will be 9.865 - 11.125, for a total of 23.57 - 29.03 per round. Net gain of 14.7% - 8.1% per round over baseline.</p><p></p><p>Studied Attacks: Gain advantage if the previous attack missed. Long term average hit rate increases from 60% to 67.7% (having advantage 32% of the time), and from 80% to 82.8% (having advantage 17% of the time). An average of 0.96 - 0.51 attacks with advantage each round. Average damage per attack will be 7.82 - 9.32, with total damage of 23.46 - 27.96 per round. Net gain of 14.2% - 4.1% per round.</p><p></p><p>Heroic Warrior + Studied Attacks: Use the guaranteed advantage if the previous attack hit (once only). Otherwise depend on Studied Attacks. One attack each round is guaranteed to be with advantage. The attack after that will be low, and the attack after that will be typical. An average of 1.52 - 1.23 attacks with advantage each round. Average damage per round is 25.14 - 29.53. Net gain of 22% - 10%.</p><p></p><p><strong>Summary</strong></p><p></p><p>So at higher base accuracy (80%), Studied Attacks is a tiny gain in overall damage (under 2%) compared to starting with Heroic Warrior. At lower base accuracy (60%), it's a bit more noticeable (7%). </p><p></p><p>From the other direction, Heroic Warrior is a decent boost regardless of accuracy, even when starting with Studied Attacks, providing an improvement of 8%-6%.</p><p></p><p>So on their own, Heroic Warrior and Studied Attacks are reasonable (if modest) improvements, particularly helping mitigate low accuracy situations. Put together, though, there's less total benefit. </p><p></p><p>However Heroic Warrior can give advantage even when switching targets (unlike Vex and Studied Attacks), and can be used a bit more tactically, to get advantage when you otherwise wouldn't have it. So it's still useful even without any synergy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kinematics, post: 9131573, member: 6932123"] On the advantage question, comparing various scenarios. I'll use 3 attacks per round (level 11), since the Studies Attacks comparison will be at level 13. I'll also assume a loop of attacks against the same target, to figure out long-term averages. I'll consider a 60% hit rate and an 80% hit rate. For damage purposes, I'll use a 1d10 weapon with 20 Str, for 10.5 base damage, and a 16 damage crit. Baseline: No advantage on any attack. Average damage per attack will be 6.85 at 60%, or 8.95 at 80%. Damage per round: 20.55 - 26.85 Heroic Warrior: Advantage on one attack per round. Other attacks are the same as baseline. An average of 1 attack with advantage per round. Advantage damage will be 9.865 - 11.125, for a total of 23.57 - 29.03 per round. Net gain of 14.7% - 8.1% per round over baseline. Studied Attacks: Gain advantage if the previous attack missed. Long term average hit rate increases from 60% to 67.7% (having advantage 32% of the time), and from 80% to 82.8% (having advantage 17% of the time). An average of 0.96 - 0.51 attacks with advantage each round. Average damage per attack will be 7.82 - 9.32, with total damage of 23.46 - 27.96 per round. Net gain of 14.2% - 4.1% per round. Heroic Warrior + Studied Attacks: Use the guaranteed advantage if the previous attack hit (once only). Otherwise depend on Studied Attacks. One attack each round is guaranteed to be with advantage. The attack after that will be low, and the attack after that will be typical. An average of 1.52 - 1.23 attacks with advantage each round. Average damage per round is 25.14 - 29.53. Net gain of 22% - 10%. [B]Summary[/B] So at higher base accuracy (80%), Studied Attacks is a tiny gain in overall damage (under 2%) compared to starting with Heroic Warrior. At lower base accuracy (60%), it's a bit more noticeable (7%). From the other direction, Heroic Warrior is a decent boost regardless of accuracy, even when starting with Studied Attacks, providing an improvement of 8%-6%. So on their own, Heroic Warrior and Studied Attacks are reasonable (if modest) improvements, particularly helping mitigate low accuracy situations. Put together, though, there's less total benefit. However Heroic Warrior can give advantage even when switching targets (unlike Vex and Studied Attacks), and can be used a bit more tactically, to get advantage when you otherwise wouldn't have it. So it's still useful even without any synergy. [/QUOTE]
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