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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 1741905" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>Number 4 isn`t really a problem, except in one situation: Saving throws against fear effects. It works great with Intimidate, which isn`t based on a save but on level and wisdom, but it fails against Dragon´s Frightful Presence or fear spells. Why are fighters more fearsome then wizards? Wizards have a lot more to fear, even a single kobold warrior can kill an unexperienced wizards in one hit (exaggeration maybe <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ), while a fighter would have little problems with him. At higher level it becomes even worse - the fighter goes toe to toe with Ogres, Trolls or even Dragons, while most wizards stand back and throw fireballs or other ranged spells. </p><p>Fearbased abilities should be modelled more like Intimidate. </p><p>(Maybe use Caster level as Intimidate check, and a succesful check creates the result like a failed save)</p><p></p><p>Maybe it could be done with a nice fighter bonus feat:</p><p>Fearless Fighter</p><p>Prerequisite: none</p><p>Benefit: You are extremely resistant to fear. Whenever you are affected by a fear effect, the attacker must make a succesful Intimidate check to affect you. If they succeed, you can save normally against the effect. If they fail, you are immune to the effect.</p><p>Special: A character may take this feat as a fighter bonus feat.</p><p>Optional: Spellcasters may replace their Intimidate with Caster level checks, while creatures with supernatural or extraordinary fear effects may use their HD as Intimidate check</p><p></p><p>Another idea for Fighter specific feats:</p><p>"Fighter School feats". A fighter choses a school, and depending on the school, he gains certain advantages. The schools could be created by feats.</p><p>A fighter can be "member" of multiple schools.</p><p></p><p>Noble Warrior school</p><p>Prerequisite: none</p><p>Benefit: You gain Diplomacy and Knowledge (nobility) as bonus class skill to your fighter class skill list.</p><p>You may take Leadership as a fighter bonus feat, and gain a +1 bonus to your effective leadership score.</p><p>Special: A character may chose this feat as a fighter bonus feat.</p><p></p><p>Cavalry school</p><p>Prerequisite: Mounted Combat</p><p>Benefit: You add a +2 competence bonus to Handle Animal and Ride checks and can take 10 on Handle Animal and Ride checks, even if in combat or otherwise threatened.</p><p>Special: A character may chose this feat as a fighter bonus feat.</p><p></p><p>Martial Arts school</p><p>Prerequisite: Improved Unarmed Strike</p><p>Benefit: You add Knowledge (arcana) and Knowledge (religion) as bonus class skill to your fighter class skill list, and your unarmed damage becomes 1d6. </p><p>Special: A character may chose this feat as a fighter bonus feat.</p><p></p><p>Urban Warrior school</p><p>Prerequisite: none</p><p>Benefit: You add Knowledge (local) and Gather Information as bonus class skill to your fighter skills. You gain a +2 bonus to listen and spot checks in urban enviroments.</p><p>Special: A character may chose this feat as fighter bonus feat.</p><p></p><p>Wilderness Warrior school</p><p>Prerequisite: none</p><p>Benefit: You add Knowledge (nature) and Survival as bonus class skill to your fighter class skill list, and gain a +2 bonus to Listen and Spot checks in wilderness enviroments.</p><p>Special: A character may chose this feat as fighter bonus feat.</p><p></p><p>Stealthy warrior school</p><p>Prerequisite: none</p><p>Benefit: You add Listen, Hide, Move Silently and Spot as bonus class skill to your fighter class skill list.</p><p>Special: A character may chose this feat as fighter bonus feat.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And here an additional one: </p><p></p><p>Bond with Mount: </p><p>Prerequisite: Mounted Combat, (Cavalry school), Ride 12 ranks</p><p>Benefit: </p><p>Once per round, if your mount is hit in melee or ranged combat, you may chose to take the hit instead of your mount, if you succeed at a Ride check against the opponents attack roll. (This is in addition to the benefit of the mounted combat feat)</p><p>Special: A character may chose this feat as a fighter bonus feat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 1741905, member: 710"] Number 4 isn`t really a problem, except in one situation: Saving throws against fear effects. It works great with Intimidate, which isn`t based on a save but on level and wisdom, but it fails against Dragon´s Frightful Presence or fear spells. Why are fighters more fearsome then wizards? Wizards have a lot more to fear, even a single kobold warrior can kill an unexperienced wizards in one hit (exaggeration maybe :) ), while a fighter would have little problems with him. At higher level it becomes even worse - the fighter goes toe to toe with Ogres, Trolls or even Dragons, while most wizards stand back and throw fireballs or other ranged spells. Fearbased abilities should be modelled more like Intimidate. (Maybe use Caster level as Intimidate check, and a succesful check creates the result like a failed save) Maybe it could be done with a nice fighter bonus feat: Fearless Fighter Prerequisite: none Benefit: You are extremely resistant to fear. Whenever you are affected by a fear effect, the attacker must make a succesful Intimidate check to affect you. If they succeed, you can save normally against the effect. If they fail, you are immune to the effect. Special: A character may take this feat as a fighter bonus feat. Optional: Spellcasters may replace their Intimidate with Caster level checks, while creatures with supernatural or extraordinary fear effects may use their HD as Intimidate check Another idea for Fighter specific feats: "Fighter School feats". A fighter choses a school, and depending on the school, he gains certain advantages. The schools could be created by feats. A fighter can be "member" of multiple schools. Noble Warrior school Prerequisite: none Benefit: You gain Diplomacy and Knowledge (nobility) as bonus class skill to your fighter class skill list. You may take Leadership as a fighter bonus feat, and gain a +1 bonus to your effective leadership score. Special: A character may chose this feat as a fighter bonus feat. Cavalry school Prerequisite: Mounted Combat Benefit: You add a +2 competence bonus to Handle Animal and Ride checks and can take 10 on Handle Animal and Ride checks, even if in combat or otherwise threatened. Special: A character may chose this feat as a fighter bonus feat. Martial Arts school Prerequisite: Improved Unarmed Strike Benefit: You add Knowledge (arcana) and Knowledge (religion) as bonus class skill to your fighter class skill list, and your unarmed damage becomes 1d6. Special: A character may chose this feat as a fighter bonus feat. Urban Warrior school Prerequisite: none Benefit: You add Knowledge (local) and Gather Information as bonus class skill to your fighter skills. You gain a +2 bonus to listen and spot checks in urban enviroments. Special: A character may chose this feat as fighter bonus feat. Wilderness Warrior school Prerequisite: none Benefit: You add Knowledge (nature) and Survival as bonus class skill to your fighter class skill list, and gain a +2 bonus to Listen and Spot checks in wilderness enviroments. Special: A character may chose this feat as fighter bonus feat. Stealthy warrior school Prerequisite: none Benefit: You add Listen, Hide, Move Silently and Spot as bonus class skill to your fighter class skill list. Special: A character may chose this feat as fighter bonus feat. And here an additional one: Bond with Mount: Prerequisite: Mounted Combat, (Cavalry school), Ride 12 ranks Benefit: Once per round, if your mount is hit in melee or ranged combat, you may chose to take the hit instead of your mount, if you succeed at a Ride check against the opponents attack roll. (This is in addition to the benefit of the mounted combat feat) Special: A character may chose this feat as a fighter bonus feat. [/QUOTE]
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